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A better effort but need to keep perspective that it was a dead rubber, had Catalan neded the win it would have been another heavy score.

Liked the look of Kemp and Martin and Barron look settled as our wings now. I also think Moy has a big future and Cartwright makes more impact than what weve had at 2nd row for a while.

Now its time for the Men In Black to come and wipe this year from our minds.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I feared the worst when I saw the XVII but the effort in the first half coupled with some Catalans errors meant a hammering wasn't going to happen.

Kemp went well, Martin and Barron again look the part and Cartwright was very good.

What's the story with Briscoe? Has he just been ill for two weeks or is there more to this?'"


Wondering about Briscoe too, and he also has a role to play next year aa Hardakers designated driver

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Echo what everyone else has been saying.

Couldn't fault the effort, they all dug in and gave it a go, but we are in desperate need of a steadying hand in the middle of the park, especially with ball in hand. Some of our attacking options, where they even exist, often defy description in their sheer ineptitude, and we had plenty of further evidence of that once more this afternoon.

We were helped immeasurably by Catalans who clearly had every puff of wind taken out of their sails after last night's results, which made the game the very definition of a meaningless last outing of the year affair. It all became very scrappy and disjointed at times, not helped by some pedantic refereeing, especially in the second half. Everyone was waiting for the final hooter with some relief and boredom by the end.

I stayed back for the tributes to Danny and Carlos, which I thought were touching and moving and were well presented and heartfelt by all. Have to say I was becoming quite emotional as I watched these two men who played such pivotal roles in our 2016/17 success parade around the ground for one final time. Think I must be coming a sentimental old sod in my advancing years!
Let's hope, in the not too distant future, we can once more cheer on quality players who also make as outstanding a contribution to our club's history as Carlos and Danny have done down the years.

So that is 2024 over and done with. All that remains is to cheer on Wigan/Wire/Whoever to GF glory next month!!

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We should have had the game tied up by half time ut yet again, lots of effort and no class. I agree with the poster who said we need an attacking coach as currently our attack is woeful.

2nd half we slipped I to old ways with I'll discipline

Forwards are a real worry again for next season. Middles of Sao, herman, Aydin and ashworth really not good enough especially once we get into the back up to those.

Herman his usual tower of strength, Cartwright good and the 2 wingers went OK. Moy, I just don't see it and think he'll end up 8n the championship.

Keep looked good for his first game, particularly first half. Looks a lot bigger than charles and better suited to superleague at this stage so no idea why we havent seen him play before.

Anyway, thank god its all over

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Quote: Jake the Peg "We should have had the game tied up by half time ut yet again, lots of effort and no class. I agree with the poster who said we need an attacking coach as currently our attack is woeful.

2nd half we slipped I to old ways with I'll discipline

Forwards are a real worry again for next season. Middles of Sao, herman, Aydin and ashworth really not good enough especially once we get into the back up to those.

Herman his usual tower of strength, Cartwright good and the 2 wingers went OK. Moy, I just don't see it and think he'll end up 8n the championship.

Keep looked good for his first game, particularly first half. Looks a lot bigger than charles and better suited to superleague at this stage so no idea why we havent seen him play before.

Anyway, thank god its all over'"


I was surprised when I saw Kemp. Physically he's fully developed and he's only just turned 18. He looks a good prospect.

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