London have had the luxury, of knowing that whatever they did they were getting relegated. That has allowed them to play without fear and to enjoy the experience. That has been apparent every time I’ve watched them. It has meant that they could shrug off mistakes and just ‘carry on regardless’. Plus they haven’t seen the disruption of injuries and or change of playing staff we have.
We, on the other hand have seen constant change and also the pressure that comes with playing for Hull FC when the whole of RL wants to see us fail. Anyone present at Magic weekend will have witnessed that. Every neutral in the ground was rooting for London.
That doesn’t help and may well hinder the development of the younger players who have been seriously over exposed to rigours of week in week out SL.
We all knew that this season was a write off and a chance to reset. It was unthinkable that it would be this bad though.
As has been said, announcements on the future of the club, financial and staff wise, can’t come soon enough.
I fully understand the despair felt by many and their reluctance to ‘go round again’ and that many probably won’t.
For what it’s worth I’ll be subjecting myself to it once again.
I guess I probably need my bumps felt !!

I thought grix was doing OK but it's gone downhill rapidly. My view has always been that no matter how lacking in ability your team is, there is no excuse for a lack of motivation and any group of players should be able to defend well. Grix has failed on both counts and I think k keeping him next year would be a mistake. We need a clean slate.

He is so lacking in energy when he speaks and the way the tea, plays mirrors it

That same observation could also be applied to us. We know we can't relegated, it's been patently obvious since Easter that we would not be in the play-offs, so it could be argued that since April we have merely been playing games on an individual basis without any tangible pressure being applied to us.

Across that middle-period of the season we did appear to making some small improvements; a couple of welcome wins, a feeling that we were at least being competitive even in those games when we lost (Cas, Hudds, Wire, Salford, etc.). You would have thought that after the Wigan victory there must have been a modicum of self-belief within the playing group, in the context of a still poor season.

But in recent weeks we've gone back to how things were in the dog-days of Smith's reign, with the coach seemingly unable to alter the mind-set of the players while giving the impression of not particularly caring anyway. This is the complete opposite to a London outfit who have taken their situation and turned it into a positive. Whatever the situation, we are once more under-performing to a massive degree even without any pressure being especially applied to us.

The fact that Hull Fc, as a club, appeared to have given up completely is totally down to internal reasons and personnel with their attendant attitude rather than any external pressures from other sides. This is all our own making, no-one else.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying we haven’t been abjectly poop.
There are a myriad of reasons and poor recruitment is just one. Players not appearing to give 100% and others not wanting to be here are also in there. Poor, if not seemingly nonexistent coaching is another.
However, no relegation doesn’t mean no pressure when you play for Hull FC.

Grix started off ok but it seems (and there could be any number of reasons) we have once again reverted to type. Whilst we have been poor and unlikely to gain (m)any wins we have once again even with our poor performances seen the summer slump once more which is quite shocking given how we could get worse than pre July.

I think the reality is next season will be an another long season as we still have the bulk of the 17 from yesterday here next season.

How does aiming vitriol at the owner or anyone at the club solve anything? What are you wanting him to do?

Do you not think that stuff like this is only going to put off potential investors/buyers? It’s obvious the fanbase has got a bad rap amongst players, I’m really worried it’s going to make any potential lifeline for the club to think twice.