We're awful but London are still bottom. If they finish bottom they deserve to be relegated, as do we if we finish bottom but that's not the rules this year.

If Cartwright gets Abdul fit, then we're gonna have a top drawer player there.

Everyone knows how taleanted rugby league player there is in Abdul is, but it's always been about his fitness with him.

Of course, it won't just be down to Cartwright, Abdul has to play his part.

On the other hand we have an owner with no money, who has made consistently bad decisions and is seemingly out of ideas.

Our lease is up on our stadium in a few years with no alternative ground to move to.

We assume there is new investment by things that have happened recently but details kept in the dark because the club only talk to us when they have new merchandise to flog to us.

Even if Cartwright Snr and Asiata are amazing it may come too late as the floodgates have opened and fans are drifting away. I no longer have confidence in Pearson, 2 good seasons in 12/13 owning the club isn't good enough.

looking at the hull team,i thought were will the points come from,we have a team,with no brains or ballplayers in the forewards and no flair or speed in the backs.pearson has to be to blame,no relegation and he wanted to save money.far more effort should have been made to replace the quota players we binned.we still have an hooker playing 7.pearson has been spouting about marquee signings,hes been spoting for weeks about the same and nothing.looking like last summer all over again,we were told we were after a top aussie halfback and ended up with nu brown.we need rid of carlos,fash,sao,lane at the very least.dead wood with nothing to offer.

If Cartwright gets Abdul fit, then we're gonna have a top drawer player there.

Everyone knows how taleanted a rugby league player there is in Abdul, but it's always been about his fitness with him.

Of course, it won't just be down to Cartwright, Abdul has to play his part.

Radford, Peters and McNamara have all tried and failed, why will it be different this time?

Like I said, let's wait and see.

Cartwright's main point was that his team are gonna be fit. So that's the only hope I'm clinging to.

But a fit Abdul is gonna be a very good player. So right now I'll cling to that hope.

I'm not waiting and seeing anymore at this club, years and years of disappointment and enough is enough

Not sure, if/when we finish bottom maybe.

I didn't watch the game live today and have scrolled through the recording. Entirely as expected, a disjointed performance by a team that look like they barely know each other (in fairness that's partly true) - our passing remains diabolical.

Unless Cartwright is some sort of magician I just don't see a material improvement next year, but I'm pretty ambivalent about it, wasted a fair bit of angst on these since 2018 so just resigned to more of the same. They say it's the hope that kills you, so perversely having no hope at all makes the relentless huge defeats easy to accept.

Even in a disastrous day for us, I have to mention that Lewis Martin keeps showing even better glimpses of talent game on game. He seems to be getting more confident each game I see in s team that has no confidence. Some blistering running from him today. Cutting through them like a thoroughbred. He's still only a puppy.

Completely agree.