So let me get this straight - because players/ex-players/their relatives are pointing fingers, we believe them?

The same players who have produced countless shocking, low effort, zero passion performances under multiple coaches, and who on match day seem incapable of even the simple RL skills like passing, catching, and tackling?

When Tony Smith was appointed, I was ecstatic.,
The first time in years, we signed a proven experienced Manager. And now we are seeing, the team playing with no intensity, ill disciplined, zero defense., even worse attack.
I believe Smith no longer coaches the team, surely the defensive coach, has no skills in tutoring , because we see the same issues game after game.
IF Smith gets a contract renewal, he's played a blinder..

I think we can give credibility to a current player, a former player and the father of another current player who all independently are rounding criticism at Smith.
There's no smoke without fire and our on field performances would certainly indicate there's issues within the club.

Also it's the coaches responsibility to improve the simple RL skills.
Would you say he's done that?

I don't believe it is down to a coach to have to teach someone who is being paid to be a professional (sic) RL player to carry out fundamental basics, no.

I do believe that the club is in a death spiral, and has been since 2018; with no apparent will or ability from the top to change course.

I do believe that he playing staff - with a few notable exceptions - have disgraced the club and themselves (not that they seem to care at all) repeatedly over a prolonged period.

I do not blindly support TS at all: nor do I believe hat it is all down to him, and that sacking him will be the magic bullet.

I have long held the belief that AP has made a catalogue of bad calls for a long time, and has seemingly learned nothing from any of them.

Smith goes, who comes in?

I'd bet its Grix.

The cheap option - Par for the course.

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Grix has done bugger all as well.he can go as well for me.

What coach would come to this club un this state, will only get worse amd would damage the persons reputation like it has for Smith.

Unless we find investment, bringing in a new coach is pointless.

If we had the finances and pull to bring in someone like Holbrook, Rowley or Wane I'd be all for it.
But if we sack Smith amd appoint internally, we might as well stick with Smith, at least he has some kind of track record of improving teams, compare that to Grix, Gene or Cummins.

When Smith left us it was because we wouldn't give in to his demands of total control of recruitment and the playing side of the game, he tried a power play with Lakin and lost. When he signed for you (and in numerous articles since) he's stated he has total control of playing matters including retention and recruitment. So the vast majority of the players you have were brought in by him and the ones leaving were released by him, Jake Connor being the main one, his article stated Smith never spoke to him and he got a 2nd hand message that he could speak to Hudds so felt he was unwanted.Hookers in half back rolls is Smiths decision, there were half backs out there that are better than you have, Reynolds would've probably come even Rowan Milnes is better than you have and I'm sure could've been tempted. If the players are downing tools then a good coach either never gets there or nips it in the bud. You needed a leader on or off the pitch yet let Gaz Ellis go, surely if yoy believe TS and all his change the culture smokescreen he's exactly the sort of guy you need around the place, yet he brings in Francis Cummins, the guy he shipped out of Leeds to improve their culture back in the day. Threre seems to be a realisation frm Smith he can't sort it as his latest recruitment peice was about that being in the hands of the CEO, sounds like a passing bus for Mr Clark to head under