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The worst thing that ever happened to your club was Macrae stating the Cancer in the club thing, when was that 18 years ago? yes there might have been problems then but its got nothing to do with todays problems, its just a ready made excuse for the fans to cling to and trot out in some kind of victim mentality as a reason its all going wrong

You've got money issues, that means lower quality players, that means bad results which means you need a coach who can work on a shoestring and get good performances, Smith has never done that, he's always improved clubs on the back of increased investment (or continued high investment) but to be fair to Pearson he was the coach 95% of you wanted, so where did he go wrong there? Smith left us because he wanted total control of recruitment, playing staff and a lot more, we wouldn't give him it, Pearson did and his recruitment (or more so his ability to retain) has shown to be way off, thats the issue, not imaginary culture / cancer rubbish, a good hard coach would motivate, organise and stiffen up at least the defence he isn't

Bottom line if you were winning games (or competing) you'd have no culture issues, Wilkin said on sky when they were saying Wire players looked happier, "who cares as long as theyre winning, they're not paid to be happy". he said he'd been in champion teams were players didn't get on.

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Quote: EtonStreetRifle "I was just attempting to discuss how the club should structure itself to be competitive and give the best chance of winning with the available resources. I agree that everything they do should be towards winning but even a great coach couldn't come into this club and just say "win, because everything I do is connected to winning, oh and while you're about it, make sure you behave well, there's a good set of chaps". It takes changes to systems, personell, processes, behaviours and time (culture change). Apologies if my woke word tripe offends you old timer lol. It's some of that "don't overcomplicate things, we're just daft working class Hull lads" attitudes we need to change!'"



The only genuine thing that offends me is the
reference to ‘old timer’ icon_biggrin.gif

I hear all the ‘noise’ about culture. I worked in
a high powered finance company in the CBD of
Melbourne as a manager of consultants and advisers.
Culture is my middle name.This was last year, before
retiring aged 55 for golf and wine tasting and a beach house in Manly. icon_lol.gif .

Sometimes you just have to cut through a
Corporate Mixed message. Currently the culture message
Is blinding the overall corporate goals of a successful
income driven Club. No income then we’re in trouble.

We need a total reset and Winning solves 99% of
Issues. Tony could sort ‘culture’ issues much easier
When the team is Winning.
I would have started with the business’s most
Important issue, losing way way too many matches, and then moved onto the ‘Nice to do’ issues, such as the Club culture.

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Quote: Tarquin Fuego "The only genuine thing that offends me is the
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Anyways, I'm guessing the beach house thing was said tongue in cheek by Tarqs.
Believe he's a Melburnian cos he used to meet up regular with Cam Smith in their local Macca D's to chew the cud over all things RL.

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Quote: Tarquin Fuego "The only genuine thing that offends me is the
reference to ‘old timer’
Sorry about the old timer reference but as I'm nearly 60 I think the woke police will just give me a warning. Didn't realise you were in Melbourne. Aussie culture...even more caveman than Hull culture lol! How about we park the culture debate and get on with supporting the black and whites? COYH

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