I’m not going to shoot down young Charles as he came on and had a go, but I can see why Smith would be hesitant to play him every week as physically he’s not there yet, hence tanginoa isolating him and running over him for our 2nd half try.

I think when trueman is back you will see him and hoy at 6 & 7 more often then not. Don’t want to ruin the kid now, and thinking he can have a run because of an ok 20 min wind assisted period could be grasping at straws. You only have to look at how stavely started vs his last game. Very difficult to maintain.

What helped Charles is your forwards actually started running straight and hard. A 4 of Pele, Ashworth, Ese Ese and let’s say Jack Brown should be doing a lot better than they currently are. Add in Sao it’s a pretty big pack but it’s not getting you in positions enough to do anything about it

I remember the days Rovers temporarily became known as Hull CVA. I found it amusing up until the point it emerged local a charity were given 15p against every pound they were promised. As low as we are we haven't scaled the depths our neighbours have.

They are years ahead of us. They have brought in a good coach who has nailed his recruitment and they should be very optimistic. I'm envious, significantly.

I'm not personally in despair. I think we are a good coaching appointment who recruits well away from steadying the ship. It's that simple.

The less-so-simple aspect is our owner is out of his depth. He's not a crisis manager and I fear to pig-headed to do what is required. That's perhaps a little flippant, but as he's a none communicator we can only deduce our own conclusions on the the little comms we get.

Did HCC "gift" Caravan Park and the surrounding land to them or did they purchase it for a nominal fee? This deal was undoubtedly the catalyst for their resurgence. What is preventing HCC giving us and the Tigers a similar leg up at the MKM?

Is it true that Adam and Stan Gene got face to face angry after the game ?

Pele and Lane had 6 metres between them in the Derby

The problem KR have is there youth setups are simply not good enough and the constant spending isnt sustainable. Sooner or later the money men will demand more. Many money people try to buy the trophies in SL and it never happens.

I see them like we was from 2002 to 2005, we would beat teams below us with ease but could never beat the top teams. For me they still have way to go to be considered a top team in this competition. Be interesting to see how they get on over the next few months, the fixture list has being kind to them at the moment which has allowed them to generate some good momentum.

However all said comparing ourselves to the noisy neighbours doesnt help our situation, we need to focus on ourselves and not what is going on elsewhere.

Craven Park will have been purchased for a price that the council demonstrated fairly reflects its value. To do otherwise would be illegal/get blocked. Rovers acquired (I guess bought but cba to check back) options to purchase parcels of the surrounding land but haven’t exercised that option… or at least haven’t announced it if they have.

Given the different circumstances of the MKM and its tenants, I’m not sure what a similar leg up would look like. I’m sure the council would love to sell the stadium for a fair market value but I doubt City (never mind Hull FC) are going to make an offer. In terms of maybe sweetening the tenancy, they’ll want to keep that as arms length as possible. Councils across the country are struggling to deliver basic services, so the last thing they’ll want to do is take on additional costs or offer de facto subsidies.