You are right but we had some great wins too and at least competed in most games . Let’s not forget he took the team to Wembley and when you look at what our replacement coaches have had available to sign players he actually didn’t do such a bad job , in my view . His teams were like him though, dour and unimaginative but as I said , usually competitive

Oh for the days of Todd Byrnr, lauaki and one metre Peter

I don't get this constant rambling of 'falling back into bad habits'

I counted that 11 of the 17 players in the squad on Saturday have only ever played first grade rugby at Hull FC under Tony Smith, so where have they picked these bad habits from?

For each of those we did at least have a Manu, Minnie Cheddars, Fitzgibbon, Ellis, Frank the Tank, O'Meley and almost a Michael Crocker.

Would love to be shopping in that pool again.

Miss being linked with the Civonceva's (spelling) and Jamie Peacocks of this world.

I'll even take a Matty Head or Adam Dykes.

This is definitely the worst squad we have since we moved to the KC, even in the dark Agar days we had some good players, some star SL players, not sure we have any as it stands.

There were some good times with Agar, that game v saints in the fog at Knowsley Road was one of my favourite away games, not knowing if we'd scored or not

If I was a casual fan, do we have any players you’d pay to watch like a French or a Field, the answer is no.

I dunno, wondering who is going to get carded this week keeps me on the edge of my seat.

Pele yellow card in the 37th minute.

As mentioned in here previously, Carlos looking at a significant period on the sidelines

Tindall touch and go for Friday

Barron with six weeks out with a fractured forehead (ouch).

good news at least that Fash, Walker and Mitchy are all nearing a return, with Trueman on track for early may.

Liam Moore is ref on Friday as he was for the home derby. Even more likely to see a card or two now.

Tom Grant video ref.