But surely even you must admit it's a upgrade on Griffin? Good solid all round pro right age I think signing him and his all round value means we can get rid of smith and lovodua and use the quota places on a couple of big forwards

He was talking about Sutcliffe as a centre nothing to do about playing 6.
The reference was that his lack of leg speed would always be a detriment to his attacking game

Where's the quotes where anybody has said it's good enough after today?

He really wasn't. He said his lack of leg speed makes him less of a threat at 6, but is a good centre.

Alan Carr would be an upgrade on Griffin but if we signed him there would be some on here who would find a positive in the signing.
Signing Sutcliffe another utility play on a three year deal who the coach at Leeds is quite happy to release does not show any real intent to make up ground on some of the top clubs.
If you buy average you usually get what you pay for.

So because he is slow we play him at centre?

Never said i included you on fantasy island
let me have a rethink

But unfortunately we are in the position to sign a top player from saints Wigan catalan etc. You wanted us to sign simm but he can't even get into a injury hit saints team so that shows how average he is

Sorry aren't in a position

Take it up with Alan Hunte.

That’s the problem, he’s had nearly 2 years in the role to have implemented some improvements in the way we play but in all honesty I fail to see anything as we still make the same poor decision, fail to respect the ball, don’t seem to have the mind set to play out a set of 6 etc. it’s just sane poop different season and the same old tired rhetoric of fans need to be patient blah blah blah. The manner of the defeats is worse than it ever has been and the continuation of doing the same things each week that just don’t and haven’t worked as though Hodgson thinks somehow things will be different is just fool hardy.