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Quote: Hasbag "I wouldn't say anybody 'hates' Houghton, just hates how he is used. We signed Lovodua as a hooker and yet Houghton has still been getting flogged for 80 minutes every week. Circumstances with injuries have dictated that to an extent, bit yesterday we had both starting halves available and 3 hookers in the squad but Houghton still played 80 minutes. It just nullifies his attack cause of the amount of defensive work he has to get through. Having said all that, age is catching up with him and he's not the player opposition fans seem to think he still is.
Disagree about Connor not trying to create anything. I'd say the complete opposite. He was almost trying too hard, throwing long balls and flick passes that weren't expected by the receiving player (everybody needs to ALWAYS expect a pass when Connor has the ball).'"


You can’t blame houghton for the coaches choices. But those saying he’s past it are off the mark. I would certainly have him in my side and I think he’s still capable of 80 minutes- but others need to do their share. I would say looking at your side there were many others that looked more tired who’d done less by that second half.
As for Connor that trying too hard is the problem too, not level headed enough on the pitch. Instead of focusing on what he needed to do in the team he was trying to win the game himself, by whatever means. Not a team player. His ego and arrogance whilst it can win you some games with a flash of brilliance, when it comes to games where there’s an arm wrestle involved it doesn’t.

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jools still obsessed with Connor after all these years.

I'm sure most will remember your hilarious dummy spitting when he signed for us.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "jools still obsessed with Connor after all these years.

I'm sure most will remember your hilarious dummy spitting when he signed for us.'"


Just can't get over it, can they.

Jake has developed excellently at Hull, won a trophy and capped by England.

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Quote: jools "I didn’t particularly think houghton looked that tired, not as tired as some of the others - and they did less work! I think he’s capable of 80 if he isn’t doing the work for the rest who should be doing more.
Connor was trying it on at times, you just have to watch him, constantly chirping at the ref and waving his arms around - frustrating as he doesn’t / shouldn’t need to he should let his skills do the talking. It’s not an injury - his lack of pace has ALWAYS been a down side to his game, something discussed many times when he was at Hudds. brilliant half backs may have and use that pace initially - but inevitably they lose it later in their careers and so have to adapt- clever players like briers and brough did that. Connor never had it in the first place so you’d think he would learn to adapt and use his other many skills- but despite no longer being that raw youngster anymore he was when at Huddersfield he just doesn’t seem to have done that. I think much of that is down to poor coaching, he was just emerging as a talent and then went to Hull and was never given the chance to settle into one position and really learn to perfect his craft at a crucial part of his development, and so has just always ended up “winging it”. That’s why we have the Connor we have.'"


Not saying he doesn’t try it on but you said he was doing it every set? He did it a couple of tImes yes. Plus it works both ways. Players do go too far at times trying to wind him up and he gets little to no protection from the referees.

Interesting to know he had little pace when playing at Huddersfield. Don’t remember him being this slow but it probably shows up more at full back.

As for position. My understanding is we signed him to be a half back and it his preference to play full back. I’d be rethinking that decision if I was him.

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Quote: davey41 "Not saying he doesn’t try it on but you said he was doing it every set? He did it a couple of tImes yes. Plus it works both ways. Players do go too far at times trying to wind him up and he gets little to no protection from the referees.

Interesting to know he had little pace when playing at Huddersfield. Don’t remember him being this slow but it probably shows up more at full back.

As for position. My understanding is we signed him to be a half back and it his preference to play full back. I’d be rethinking that decision if I was him.'"


He was flirting between halves, FB and centre whilst at Hudds, but still relatively young and a raw talent. He’s continued doing that and has never really had the opportunity to really cement himself in a single position. I honestly think this is one of the reasons why he hasn’t got that consistency everyone keeps going on about. He still has that raw skill and talent that can do amazing things on the field but hasn’t developed the depth of knowledge and experience and maturity to his game that is developed from playing in one position week in week out.

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2 of the Giants tries Jake was too slow

FFS when will anyone frigging realise he’s not a FB - he’s too slow

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