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Quote: mwindass "Mcshane, Clark and Roby average about 40 tackles a game. Parcel about 25-30.

Shaul is going to have to work his socks off in the middle.

He was criticised for his decision making at full back. I don't see it getting any better shifting him to 9.

Playing hooker is much more than scooting. I'd love to be proven wrong, but just can't see it.

I'd have him as wing/full back cover. He can still scoot from the wing, he'd help us with our exit sets for sure.'"


What was the criticism on decision making, you mean in attack in the final 20? Given he had Radford as a coach for the formative years of his Hull tenure is this really surprising?
Hodgson is a smart coach, one who played at the highest level in a skill position, Radford didn't, maybe, just maybe Shaul will learn something for any role he gets the chance at, if we get a rejuvenated Shaul with some added skills to his game then that's a big plus for the club.
If he doesn't progress or there's simply no role for him, he's a squad player, could he accept that, would he want to move somewhere were he'll get regular game time, that's what I'd be concerned about

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Quote: Large Paws "Which is why I raise the point. It is my belief that it has been possible to see a change in his game, since that evening.'"

Can you point specifically to when this is noticeable and what exactly what we're loooking for?

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Quote: BumpyMcbump "Can you point specifically to when this is noticeable and what exactly what we're loooking for?'"

Might be just me, but I think he is less direct when he takes and then returns the ball. He appears to me to be reluctant to run it in and dances across the line a lot. I realise he has had concussions as well which may affect his game.

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Quote: Large Paws "Might be just me, but I think he is less direct when he takes and then returns the ball. He appears to me to be reluctant to run it in and dances across the line a lot. I realise he has had concussions as well which may affect his game.'"

Might that not be that in some circumstances he's looking for a gap to break through instead of just running into two/three defenders and in doing so not only loses any potential avenue but also because of his stature means he gets pushed back.

Could that actually be he's thinking more about finding the gap before going into contact as well as not wanting to be pushed/lifted back in the tackle losing ground.
The last few years we've not been pulling up any trees and the overall team performances have been at times diabolical, the overall impact of that can also influence how a player might perform, particularly if they feel under pressure from the coach or pressure from themselves due to their afiliation with the coach.

I understand what you're saying and it's something that can weigh on people's minds after traumatic events, but even the person who has had that event happen to them might not realise they've changed specifically because of that, or even admit to doing x or y differently. And correlation isn't causation, what I said above could also be valid.

either way, I hope he gets back to full fitness and can be allowed to prove himself in whatever position that might be, I think we've missed his explosiveness in open field play and his ability to track back for kicks quickly and get us on the front foot, something that Connor doesn't do, mostly because he ambles back for kicks and is never in a hurry to take the ball up.

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Might that not be that in some circumstances he's looking for a gap to break through instead of just running into two/three defenders and in doing so not only loses any potential avenue but also because of his stature means he gets pushed back.

Could that actually be he's thinking more about finding the gap before going into contact as well as not wanting to be pushed/lifted back in the tackle losing ground

Possibly, but I think he does it more now than he used to.

[either way, I hope he gets back to full fitness and can be allowed to prove himself in whatever position that might be.

Me too

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Quote: Large Paws "Might that not be that in some circumstances he's looking for a gap to break through instead of just running into two/three defenders and in doing so not only loses any potential avenue but also because of his stature means he gets pushed back.

Could that actually be he's thinking more about finding the gap before going into contact as well as not wanting to be pushed/lifted back in the tackle losing ground

Possibly, but I think he does it more now than he used to.

[either way, I hope he gets back to full fitness and can be allowed to prove himself in whatever position that might be.

Me too'"


I agree.

To be fair most Full Backs return the ball by running across the line and looking for the gap. Not many have the strength to run hard and straight at the oncoming defence and risk being lifted back over the in-goal line.

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