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Quote: ccs "... until teams start targeting him, then we'll see how good he is.'"

So you're judging his ability to make tackles before he even has a chance to prove otherwise? We know Jamie can tackle, that's not in doubt, and if he can meet the attacker sooner because he has greater speed off the line, then he meets the attacker before they get a chance to get up a head of steam, this makes a significant difference as you would (or should) know.

And do teams target Houghton, or does Houghton position himself to make tackles? If we are using Shaul as an impact hooker does he need to be making the same number of tackles per minute/set that Houghton does, isn't his impact/speed meant to take workload off the forwards in attack (and making their forwards work harder defensively) such that they are a bit more rested for defensive duties, this is a symbiotic thing, just as DH ability to give forwards a break by making more tackles.

Whilst Danny is a fantastic tackler, this is 90% of his game, he does the amount of tackles because he rarely gets spelled and that has a detrimental impact on him and the team overall. Just because he can make 50-60 tackles in a game doesn't make that the most effective use of what he could potentially do. The more minutes/work making tackles he makes, the more detrimental effect on his ability, that's not his fault, that's simply fatigue, and from that increases chance of injury and later season fatigue.

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Quote: Large Paws "Which is why I raise the point. It is my belief that it has been possible to see a change in his game, since that evening.'"

Can you point specifically to when this is noticeable and what exactly what we're loooking for?

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Quote: BumpyMcbump "Can you point specifically to when this is noticeable and what exactly what we're loooking for?'"

Might be just me, but I think he is less direct when he takes and then returns the ball. He appears to me to be reluctant to run it in and dances across the line a lot. I realise he has had concussions as well which may affect his game.

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Quote: Large Paws "Might be just me, but I think he is less direct when he takes and then returns the ball. He appears to me to be reluctant to run it in and dances across the line a lot. I realise he has had concussions as well which may affect his game.'"

Might that not be that in some circumstances he's looking for a gap to break through instead of just running into two/three defenders and in doing so not only loses any potential avenue but also because of his stature means he gets pushed back.

Could that actually be he's thinking more about finding the gap before going into contact as well as not wanting to be pushed/lifted back in the tackle losing ground.
The last few years we've not been pulling up any trees and the overall team performances have been at times diabolical, the overall impact of that can also influence how a player might perform, particularly if they feel under pressure from the coach or pressure from themselves due to their afiliation with the coach.

I understand what you're saying and it's something that can weigh on people's minds after traumatic events, but even the person who has had that event happen to them might not realise they've changed specifically because of that, or even admit to doing x or y differently. And correlation isn't causation, what I said above could also be valid.

either way, I hope he gets back to full fitness and can be allowed to prove himself in whatever position that might be, I think we've missed his explosiveness in open field play and his ability to track back for kicks quickly and get us on the front foot, something that Connor doesn't do, mostly because he ambles back for kicks and is never in a hurry to take the ball up.

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Might that not be that in some circumstances he's looking for a gap to break through instead of just running into two/three defenders and in doing so not only loses any potential avenue but also because of his stature means he gets pushed back.

Could that actually be he's thinking more about finding the gap before going into contact as well as not wanting to be pushed/lifted back in the tackle losing ground

Possibly, but I think he does it more now than he used to.

[either way, I hope he gets back to full fitness and can be allowed to prove himself in whatever position that might be.

Me too

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Quote: Large Paws "Might that not be that in some circumstances he's looking for a gap to break through instead of just running into two/three defenders and in doing so not only loses any potential avenue but also because of his stature means he gets pushed back.

Could that actually be he's thinking more about finding the gap before going into contact as well as not wanting to be pushed/lifted back in the tackle losing ground

Possibly, but I think he does it more now than he used to.

[either way, I hope he gets back to full fitness and can be allowed to prove himself in whatever position that might be.

Me too'"


I agree.

To be fair most Full Backs return the ball by running across the line and looking for the gap. Not many have the strength to run hard and straight at the oncoming defence and risk being lifted back over the in-goal line.

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