Lots of things are easy with the benefit of hindsight. The clubs and most supporters believed that a short delay to the season start was enough to start the season in front of crowds.

Pass sales were always likely to be down, but by how many was an unknown. While I have renewed, I understand others not renewing as so far we have been able to attend 1 game and tommorow's game is a pretty much a B-list lineup due to the farce around the England game. It hasn't been value for money so far. The size of the KCOM also means people don't fear 'losing their seat' by not renewing, one nearby will still be there next season.

Merchandise sales will also be well down as you can do the best marketing in the world but some items people only buy to wear at games, such as scarves when its cold, on a match day hundreds enter the shop.

I did not suggest that we were doing well financially as a club. I said we were able to benefit from the extraneous income streams that you mentioned in your origin post when you said other than Saints and Leeds clubs could not. Looking at other posts you do not even appear to be correct about Leeds’ situation.

No one is celebrating. Once again, your point of view is challenged, hey presto let’s introduce yet another topic.

Rovers have done well in improving what was a poor ground and yes have started to carve out a niche for concerts as there aren't any other 10-15k sized stadiums around, only Donny. The KCOM/MKM is too big for a lot of music acts, even without the Allam issues. I also think Rovers idea of having beer stalls and food at one end is a good idea.

But while you seem to have a good and steady deal with the council, the ownership hasn't been transferred yet and you're in the same boat as most SL teams in needing an owner to cover losses.

I didn’t write the other posts about St Helens and Leeds.

In summary our posts both conclude that Rovers have the ability to generate other income from their ground that other clubs, including Hull, can’t. Rovers, like other clubs, are still financially dependent on owners or other parties.

I think even football clubs are dependent on owners

Huge clubs like man utd running up 100s of millions of debt a year on year due to ridiculous wages/transfers even they can't afford it in the real world

Clubs like Bury, Macclesfield etc going to the wall in recent years

Man United's owners have deliberately saddled the club with debt to then gain an income from loans to themselves, same situation at Hull City on a smaller scale.

Footballs biggest problem is everyone gambling to get promoted or get into the Champions League etc they all think 'one more big signing' and get carried away.

Anyway back to FC: Leeds game moved to Thursday night for TV doesnt help the coffers. First game back not on TV and on a Friday would have drawn another few thousand in. It does however give us another days rest before Saints on the Monday.