Ellis will play loose and probably Jake on bench but would like to see this team
Shaul
Naulogo
Connor
Tuimavave
Faramio
Kelly
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Paea
Griffin
Minichiello
Manu
Satae,Ellis, Bowden,Logan

Organisational culture is set from the top.
People can blame the players, the coaches etc but the person who has the power to change all of that is Adam Pearson and he has failed to do so.
For all his media soundbites over the years about not accepting mediocrity and sub standard performances here we are with the biggest number of hidings and embarrassing performances under his tenure.
His ill judged comments about not envisioning anyone other than LR being the coach while he is in charge has allowed a culture of complacency to permeate the whole club.
I realise this will go down like a lead balloon with most on here as AP is untouchable but that's how I see it.

Logan is on his way out of the club at the end of the season
Dont think we will see Logan again

Read my first post on Radford Out. I’ve laid the blame at his door.

Fair play. You make some good points.
Credit to Mrs Barista as well. She's identified APs limitations with regard to financial resources. It's depressing to think that this is our level and we've got nothing to look forward to without either a silent investor or new owner turning up.

Does anyone remember the Sean McRae before Shane Richardson left and the one after
Chalk and Cheese
Richo was a beast of a Chairman
He demanded success from his Coach

AP is not like that at all - he’s an enabler at the moment
Almost inept

Well, you could say the same of the last 30 years, albeit we do have our most successful coach of that period at the helm, so who knows? Hope springs eternal. Lee has got us to Wembley *twice* of course and we were narrowly defeated by the eventual winners in the semi final this time so there are grounds for optimism given we have beaten the odds already. It's more fun being the perennial underdogs.

It may be more fun for you but its bloody awful to watch.

Not really. You never know what you'll get. Had some great moments this year IMO, just not quite enough of them.

It’s not as if Saints, Leeds, Wigan and Wire are spending double what we are though. It’s a sport governed by a salary cap.
What becomes crucial is your coaching staff. I don’t buy us being a level below the teams I mentioned.
Hull are a big club in Super League, and relatively well resourced. Any attempt to make us believe we should be happy with our lot just won’t wash.

Coaching is the X factor
Simple as that
We currently have the D- factor