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To be fair , sebs post ain't as ridiculous as some make out , a little harsh on his quality , but hard to argue with the facts of his post

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This is purely conjecture on my part, but if I was a 23yr old second-rower with great potential and some solid SL experience under my belt, then the back-to-earth reality of a season-ending injury in Aus last year, I'd be really excited to join a club where I get to work with arguably one of the best second-rowers, and leaders, the game has ever seen (apologies Lee, but I mean Gaz Ellis!) Perhaps, along with a competitive 3-yr deal, this might just have been a factor?

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Quote: Homenaway "This is purely conjecture on my part, but if I was a 23yr old second-rower with great potential and some solid SL experience under my belt, then the back-to-earth reality of a season-ending injury in Aus last year, I'd be really excited to join a club where I get to work with arguably one of the best second-rowers, and leaders, the game has ever seen (apologies Lee, but I mean Gaz Ellis!) Perhaps, along with a competitive 3-yr deal, this might just have been a factor?'"

You could well be right, I would imagine the fact he's fit and Brisbane gave him permission to leave means he is raring to go.

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "You could well be right, I would imagine the fact he's fit and Brisbane gave him permission to leave means he is raring to go.'"


He is not fit.
According to Radford when he arrives next week he will spend two weeks mostly with the conditioning staff

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Quote: bonaire "He is not fit.
According to Radford when he arrives next week he will spend two weeks mostly with the conditioning staff'"

I don't mean "match fit", I mean he has recovered from the ACL injury.

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Quote: ccs "No idea, it's only a numbers game, but Garbutt left within a week of Furner arriving as coach last November.
Not offering new contracts is the easy way out, although the NRL always seem to have surplus players available before the season starts because of cap issues.
Sinfield is saying it'll take a couple of years to get sorted, sounds like they're on borrowed time at the moment.'"



hello, casual observer here, the Leeds payroll is an interesting one, the 2 things we do know over the last 15 years is that hetherington is tight as cramp and that they've got hella good value for money out of the golden generation, Sinfield has publicly said they'd taken less money at Leeds to keep the bang together and keep bringing titles.

Now bare in mind if you've been used to that sort of squad where you've got ppl on lesser terms does that mean you're a bit out of touch in terms of 'outside' recruiting, and possibly overpaying players, especially when things go to and you need to panic buy.

Garbutt was a mid-season signing for them iirc, it wouldn't surprise me if he was on a lot cos they were pretty desperate at the time and have struggled at prop off and on for a few seasons.

you could argue the same may be happening at wigan right now with their out of balance squad

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