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The club should be totally embarrassed by the need to bring a 37yr old out of a 2 year retirement because the retention and recruitment in the off season was a complete shambles!
We knew Green and Bowden would miss the first few months and neither are really top drawer anyway. Did we really expect Taylor to carry the rest of the pack in every single game and never miss a match! The first time he is not available we suddenly realise what most fans have said for six months ..our forwards ain't good enough and resort to asking Ellis to try bale us out!
Good luck to Ellis on Sunday and I'll be cheering him on but serious questions need to be asked of who is responsible for this fiasco. Is James Clark up to the job if he's in Motu's shoes now? The club seem to have taken the fans for fools this season as it's looking like a write off already. We were told the grand plan moving forward was no wholesale changes in one go but already next season we are looking at a massive upheaval with Manu, Mini, Paea, Kelly, Talanoa, Washbrook plus more likely to go. WTF is going on?

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Quote: Tinkerman23 "Poor stats from masi again, bit surprised though, sounded like he had a good game'"


BIT harsh on the lad to single him out. On a per carry basis all of the forwards were only picking up about 5 yards a go. Show what Good line speed wigan had.

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So..
Golden point practised in the week
Ellis selected and delivers (in face of derision)
Unknown winger identified and brought through to make 2 try debut
Hull avoid arm wrestle when missing forwards, use offloading game plan
None of the tries from kicks, all worked

Does Radford deserve any credit for the above?

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Absolutely. The really re-assuring thing is the squad all seem together & massively motivated. With 3 front line props, Hadley, Albie & maybe Talanoa all to return in the next few weeks we could go on a bit of a winning run, be nice to be back in the top 5 soonest.

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Quote: ccs "Fantastic win, great effort all round, well done LR and the team for achieving a very rare victory against Wigan on their home soil.

As far as I can tell, these are all our league victories against Wigan away between 1895 and 2015.

Sat 7 Dec 1895 Hull Home Lost 00-03
Sat 31 Jan 1903 Hull Home Lost 02-03
Wed 12 Apr 1905 Hull Home Lost 03-10
Sat 20 Sep 1919 Hull Home Lost 05-11
Sat 4 Nov 1922 Hull Home Lost 09-10
Sun 25 Oct 1981 Hull Home Lost 05-18
Wed 11 Jan 1989 Hull Home Lost 20-35
Sun 6 Sep 1992 Hull Home Lost 13-14
Fri 5 Apr 2002 Hull FC Home Lost 18-20
Fri 10 Jun 2005 Hull FC Home Lost 24-28
Fri 30 Aug 2013 Hull FC Home Lost 33-34

Not many I'm afraid, I knew they were few and far between, but the odds seem to have been stacked against us whatever team we may have had. None in the 1950's for example.

Some of the gaps will be when we didn't play them at all, fixtures were often regionalised in the dim and distant past.'"


I watched from 1946 until 1959 when I left Hull and because of regionalisation cannot remember too many Wigan games being played in that period against either Hull or Rovers. Stretching my memory I only remember 1 in the late 40's when Wigan played Rovers. Went with my dad and the match was memorable for the incident in the last minutes when Wigan,behind by 1 point, were awarded a penalty for a voluntary tackle in the corner close to the Rovers line and kicked the goal to win.

Not seen too many penalties for voluntary tackles since!

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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Here are the Wigan results during that period...…

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Sat 5 Oct 1946 Hull Kingston Rovers Home Won 50-02
Sat 24 May 1947 Hull Kingston Rovers Away Won 17-08
Sat 3 May 1952 Championship Play Offs SF

wigan.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=2172
Here are the Wigan results during that period...…

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Sat 5 Oct 1946 Hull Kingston Rovers Home Won 50-02
Sat 24 May 1947 Hull Kingston Rovers Away Won 17-08
Sat 3 May 1952 Championship Play Offs SF

wigan.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=2172


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