Terrorists are only interested in killing as many innocent people as they can not blowing up empty buildings.

Well, exactly. This is what I don’t get. Surely the “risk” is elevated on matchday therefore the requirement to close this ISIS barrier should be then? The whole rationale sounds bonkers to me.

With the Allams, it’s almost a threat from within, they seem to want to “blow up” the KC from within. The old man seems intent on misery to achieve his own happiness. All that money, no conscience or morals.

The response from councillors, at least on Twitter and in the poorly articulated "statements" seems high on emotion and low on detailed critique and dismantling of the rationale put forward by the SMC. Whether that's through lack of capability, appetite or resources to fund appropriately specialist legal counsel I don't know, but posturing about taking the gate down themselves then having to concede that in the main it will stay shut is exactly the response the Allams would have been hoping for IMO.

No it wasn’t, it was the Lib Dem’s under Simone Butterworth that put together the contract and signed it. And it isn’t about having the know how, the contract is air tight, we have had QCs look at it over the air I arena farce.

The statements put out by whom? The SMC manage the grounds and as we found at great cost have an airtight contract, the councils only recourse is through the planning process. The footpath was built for the Stadium and as such is not a public right of way.

The one they put out yesterday saying the gate would be open for a few hours. I think the ambitions of the Allams now, having already alienated FC and City's fans is to cast the net wider and get after fairgoers



Seriously though, from a planning consent perspective does the rationale for putting a gate in which (fairtime apart) is shut apart from on the few hours each week when there are substantial numbers of people in attendance, as a way of mitigating terrorism risk stack up? I simply don't see it, unless I've missed something.

Unfortunately cordless angle grinders are too readily available now

Slither and squirm, just what we expect from the great and good of HCC, Mr Webster, you epitomise everything that’s wrong with local government, idiots elected and setting low targets and constantly missing them. I would imagine you voted for the unnecessary new Ice Rink and the sub capacity (but inflated cost) venue, not to mention the countless delays on Castle Street development and idiocy of bus lanes. City of Culture we may be, but the only culture at the power levels of the Council is a self-serving culture of the old boys network.

Who mentioned the air arena? I'm talking primarily about this, blocking a right of way that is land that is public, one can openly walk around the stadia at any time, so blocking a way that has being used for years cannot be stopped up temporary or otherwise without an order. Uou should know this as it's common knowledge.
Which Queen's council did they seek? I refer to gumption because the council have always being very reticent to act. Haven't they at this moment allowed SMC to dictate matters on land that doesn't even belong to them and has no backing by organisations to suggest leaving the way open has any bearing on safety of the stadia with respect to terrorism?
and yet the council still allowed the footbridge/right of way to be unlawfully blocked. As i said, no gumption, no clue what they're doing.

Whichever council lot gave the asset away should have being investigated.

That sums you up, “I imagine” you don’t even know whose responsibility Castle Street is, I’ve always found that people who are quick to call people idiot when they don’t even know them, usually wear that medal themselves with honour. Try reading something and get yourself some understanding of grown up things, as people who think you a fool have that confirmed when you open your mouth.