It's clearly obvious that without houghton we're a defensive shambles. A player making 50/60 tackles each game on average is a huge miss. The other players are not stepping up at all and our ill discipline is a concern. This has been coming for some time (Wigan and wire) second half performances. Seems we've lost all confidence. Agree back to basics for the Leigh game as this one is gone! Radders has to take blame though as he's failed to get us up for recent games. I might get shot for this but when things are going well he's a good coach but when things go to pot or ain't going our way he's shocking! For me that's what makes him an 'average' at best coach. The team we have we should be ripping super league apart!

The time when Manu did it, he did it at the play the ball and then went for a second go. The first time I thought "don't be stupid, we've got momentum!" and was relieved when nothing happened. When he walked forward and went for it again, even I'd have blown the whistle. It was pure idiocy. That killed off any comeback we could have had. It was the end of our pressure and the start of what we're three consecutive penalties in a minute (resulting in our captain getting binned). Game changing moment.

inot saying it would have affected final result,but when are other clubs going to copy the leeds foreward pass percentage game,they know for every 10 foreward passes you throw,you will only get pulled up once,possibly twice at most.i know every club throws the occasional foreward pass,but leeds have it off to a fine art.

Was just taking before the game how well Manu has started the season and doesn't seem to be giving away as many silly penalties as last year, seemed to lose his head, hopefully this will calm him down again.