I disagree totally. We are noticeably a different team when Ellis is off the field, even yesterday 2 tries were scored during his short spell on the sidelines.

... there was a (heated) debate about Turner earlier in this thread... viewtopic.php?p=18349682#p18349682

... there was a (heated) debate about Turner earlier in this thread... viewtopic.php?p=18349682#p18349682

Yet Saints fans saying he's better than Owen and due to him being played in 5 differing positions (this season?) has an affect. Bulked up to play LF so lost some of his pace.
No game changer for sure but he was more than alright for us.

That was the point that I and a few others were making about Turner and you argued against it, he is an alright player that is it, would he improve us now, not in my opinion.

When you say "size and power' Staffs........not sure if you've heard it ? but when Scotty T scores his second try, if you listen closely on BBC iplayer at 2:02:40s you can hear him give out a "rebel yell" as he summons up all his power to overcome Kyle Amor and put him on his back. Gave me goosebumps when I heard it. Imagine trying to stop that kind of power and determination, he sounded like a wild man. That kid wants it so bad.