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| Quote number 6="number 6"so did wire have permission to approach westerman before he was offered the 3 year deal?
if he had a year remaining on his contract andwe offered him another, surely Adam wont have allowed another club to offer a contract?'"
Really looking forward to seeing Adam explain this one away.
And, if the intention was to keep Westerman all along, presumably the club now has a hefty chunk of salary cap to play with, not to mention a six-figure transfer fee!
Anyone else not totally convinced?
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| In a salary cap sport I guess we should be asking does his salary reflect what he gives us on the pitch? I'd suggest baring 1 season he has been poor value for money. I'd be very disappointed if we signed him on a longer and improved contract
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| Quote JMR="JMR"Really looking forward to seeing Adam explain this one away.
And, if the intention was to keep Westerman all along, presumably the club now has a hefty chunk of salary cap to play with, not to mention a six-figure transfer fee!
Anyone else not totally convinced?'"
This is why I mentioned those who are over analysing this situation. Why the big interest in how the owner is going to explain this? What exactly are you not convinced about?
I was under the impression that we were supposed to support the club, not look for ways to attack it 
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Maybe he will prove me and others wrong'"
Probably.
Quote Dave K.="Dave K."but he will have to improve his attacking game massively'"
Wrong.
Quote Dave K.="Dave K."and become more consistent.'"
Correct.
Quote Dave K.="Dave K."I honestly think they are signing him on reputation only.'"
You think two top coaches haven't bothered to look past his reputation? 
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| Quote JMR="JMR"Really looking forward to seeing Adam explain this one away.
And, if the intention was to keep Westerman all along, presumably the club now has a hefty chunk of salary cap to play with, not to mention a six-figure transfer fee!
Anyone else not totally convinced?'"
Not hard to explain really, is it?
Pearson says he made an extension offer to Westerman who said No, and I'm leaving at end of current contract. Another club makes an offer which in the circumstances is too good to refuse. Pearson accepts.
Where's the drama? Things change. IF, he's gone, we move on without him, but with, potentially, a very good squad.
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| Quote Large Paws="Large Paws"Not hard to explain really, is it?
Pearson says he made an extension offer to Westerman who said No, and I'm leaving at end of current contract. Another club makes an offer which in the circumstances is too good to refuse. Pearson accepts.
Where's the drama? Things change. IF, he's gone, we move on without him, but with, potentially, a very good squad.'"
Couldn't agree more the guy may have been promised a very good improved deal at wire if he signs or just wants a fresh challenge and has told the club this you can not blame the club for cashing in and his form in my opinion has been very inconsistent its not like where short of very good back row forwards or good young kids knocking on the door good bit of business if its true and he's away hope this gives us cap space to improve in other vital areas
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| Quote Mild mannered Janitor="Mild mannered Janitor"Not a criticism Dave, but I see this comment a lot about some of our emerging players. At what point do they become ready?
I would have thought that having being drip fed into the team then given a decent run of matches at the end where it was not win at all costs was the ideal preparation to train the house down in the off season and come back demanding a position in the starting line up.'"
Just needs to improve his fitness and defence in order to play at LF. We have lots of people to play there, so there is no rush.
I'd have Logan starting next season at centre though.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Probably.
Wrong.
Correct.
You think two top coaches haven't bothered to look past his reputation?
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If you are going to argue a point, you can't just put wrong can you?
Name me examples of this attacking play this season?
On reputation, I was talking more about his ability as a youngster, which he hasn't fulfilled rather than off the field.
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| I dont think we could afford to keep Westerman anyway given who we've brought in and AP probably needed to offload him.
. I also read that we got more like 50k for him, considering Leeds were reported as not wanting to cough a fee (maybe player exchange?) It wouldn't surprise me.
I honestly can't see us getting £100k never mind £150k given how he performed this season gone, not that it was bad just not good enough to justify aa huge fee for a player with only one year on his contract left.
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"I dont think we could afford to keep Westerman anyway given who we've brought in and AP probably needed to offload him.
. I also read that we got more like 50k for him, considering Leeds were reported as not wanting to cough a fee (maybe player exchange?) It wouldn't surprise me.
I honestly can't see us getting £100k never mind £150k given how he performed this season gone, not that it was bad just not good enough to justify aa huge fee for a player with only one year on his contract left.'"
This is the crux of the issue.
Has Adam strung everyone along, knowing Joe was always going?
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| Quote JMR="JMR"This is the crux of the issue.
Has Adam strung everyone along, knowing Joe was always going?'"
Why has he strung people along??
This is the bit your are not explaining.
As has been mentioned, circumstances change and we are loaded up in the forwards. We play in a salary capped sport, something has to give. We have no idea as to when Warringtons interest became a genuine bid. For all we know this could have been 3 months ago or 2 weeks ago.
ATEOTD, it really doesn't matter. If you base a decision whether to attend or not based on what the owner comes out with then that puts you in a fairly unique position.
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