I think this is beside the point and you have to take away everyone's loyalty to their club in this argument because this point could be applied to every club and we could say everyone should of done better to improve their final league position, but we know that that's not possible because not everyone can win every game they will always be a draw,winner and loser so you finish where you deserve to finish in the league.

I think a lot of people's argument with the new system is that the RFL said that every minute of every super 8s game would count but this simply isn't true as has already been pointed out on here that once we lost to cas then we realistically had no chance of making the 4 thus making our other 6 games meaningless(for us anyway), so only a few games in the all new exciting system has proven to have its flaws already.

But I don't think resetting the points to zero is the answer as well as I do think you should be rewarded for finishing higher but I'm not a huge fan of the new system or the playoff system anyway, I think it goes without saying we need the grand final as it makes for a great spectacle and show piece for RL but I think it should be just the top 2 after the regular rounds that should contest the grand final, having a top 8 or 6 playoff system just promotes mediocrity as teams like us see it as a success to finish in the playoffs when we should all be striving to be the best and finish in the top 2, then the bottom of super league would play off against the top of championship in a grand final style game for a place in the super league.

I think the RFL/SUper league sometimes over complicate things to try and make the game more exciting when sometimes keeping things simple is the best way.

The thread title is 'Super 8s points' my comment is regarding points/matches relating to that period of games hence why I never mentioned previous defeats and their effects (which is obvious to everyone).
HTH.

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Saints or wire again then if its a leeds v wigan final

So the suggestion is to make the end of the regular league season a bunch of dead rubbers for the top instead by resetting the points in the Super 8s? Doesn't seem like a good solution to me. It rewards mediocrity.

In fact, that's been the issue with SL since the licensing period started and the switch to Top 8. We've been rewarding mediocrity. Low and behold, that's what we got: mediocre games in the regular season that had little meaning, and poorly attended play off games that didn't feel deserved.

The solution? Play better next year. Not everyone deserves a prize.

Sounds reasonable,waste of time as it is now.