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| I am not wanting to go over ground already covered but as a 3rd generation hull fan who now takes his own children and used to have a great uncle who represented our club with great distinction I believe that I and others like me do have a right to voice our opinions and no less a right simply because I no longer buy a pass.
This season for the first time in years I have become a pay as you go customer and not a very occasional one at that. Both my children now refuse to accompany me to games when I go as they claim it is now boring and who am I to disagree as I am now equally disillusioned.
I firmly believe the current failings of this club are due to Pearson and Radford and no blame can be apportioned to any fan regardless.
Pearson through dialogue with him and through the media in my opinion is a very arrogant and stubborn man who should look at himself first and foremost and ask "what can I do differently to change the club?" Instead of laying the blame at those non attending fans for our financial demise, those very same fans the club need yet he chooses to ignore.
And as for Radford a man clearly out if his depth at this level of coaching a man ultimately responsible for taking the level of performances below what I thought possible in the fact he makes Agar look good, is also responsible for driving away fans in their droves. He also alienates players and fans alike with his ill thought out interviews which does not help our cause.
It has got so bad for me that I now resent a man I do not know simply because of how bad we are and how he has now made me feel as a supporter.
So now no longer will I blindly give cash to this club to an owner who no longer deserves it and for a coach to be employed who's ability I do not respect or value.
For me it is no longer about big name signings as they won't win me over as they'll become expensive parts in a badly run machine but a proven coach or one with pedigree and potential would.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The £11m turnover for Leeds, is this solely the Rhinos or does thus include the Union team? What I do know is, their corporate hospitality is huge in comparison to any other RL club in the UK. Not sure if the Rhinos own their stadium, but I think it maybe part of Caddicks business empire. St's do have their own stadium which I'd imagine they have a decent mortgage to finance it.
Anyway. Realistically what would make the opinion of the stay away fans change? Is it a matter of changing the coach or is it going to take a sustained period of winning to get bums on seats?'"
Winning will obviously increase gates but the coup for Pearson would be to appoint a first class coach.That would have a bigger impact on fans buying a season pass than signing The likes of Pritchard.It would also show fans he has admitted his mistake appointing Radford.
Apart from Pearson there are very few people who have any faith left in Radford as a coach.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The £11m turnover for Leeds, is this solely the Rhinos or does thus include the Union team? What I do know is, their corporate hospitality is huge in comparison to any other RL club in the UK. Not sure if the Rhinos own their stadium, but I think it maybe part of Caddicks business empire. St's do have their own stadium which I'd imagine they have a decent mortgage to finance it.
Anyway. Realistically what would make the opinion of the stay away fans change? Is it a matter of changing the coach or is it going to take a sustained period of winning to get bums on seats?'"
No. Saints have no bank debt, and was majorly financed (currently £15m) by a friend of Eamon McManus who also happens to be a Saints fan. The club can pay this back at any rate, and any debt remaining at the end of the 2018 will be liquidated into shares (or postponed) and the club will again be completely debt free. It will all come down to whether McManus wants to retire, and if he does the baton will be passed into a fan whose already proven his commitment financially (or at least that's my current understanding)
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "No. Saints have no bank debt, and was majorly financed (currently £15m) by a friend of Eamon McManus who also happens to be a Saints fan. The club can pay this back at any rate, and any debt remaining at the end of the 2018 will be liquidated into shares (or postponed) and the club will again be completely debt free. It will all come down to whether McManus wants to retire, and if he does the baton will be passed into a fan whose already proven his commitment financially (or at least that's my current understanding)'"
Interesting. If that's the case, how come saints were so skint during the build process?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Interesting. If that's the case, how come saints were so skint during the build process?'"
Mcmanus still poured a lot of his own funds into the project, as well as modernising the training and youth facilities as an aside, and paying off directors loans we had outstanding from the early days of SL at the same time - i think McManus + sale of kr made up the remaining £10m for the stadium. I also think an element of idealism (a saints team in a saints stadium) meant we could have invested more in the playing side but chose not to - but that's more personal conjecture than what the accounts say.
I'll have a closer look on the saints accounts when they're published like I always do, but I'm 95% that's what was gleaned from last years accounts, and presume the accounts this year say the same...
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Mcmanus still poured a lot of his own funds into the project, as well as modernising the training and youth facilities as an aside, and paying off directors loans we had outstanding from the early days of SL at the same time - i think McManus + sale of kr made up the remaining £10m for the stadium. I also think an element of idealism (a saints team in a saints stadium) meant we could have invested more in the playing side but chose not to - but that's more personal conjecture than what the accounts say.
I'll have a closer look on the saints accounts when they're published like I always do, but I'm 95% that's what was gleaned from last years accounts, and presume the accounts this year say the same...'"
Whatever, you're in a much better financial position than us
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