I'll tell you why we moan, its because we actually care and love our club. Pearson, Radford, Ellis, Pryce I could go on, will be long gone soon. In the same way Boxall, Hancock, Bunting, Lloyd Leuluai etc have long gone. But who have stayed loyal thorugh some pretty dross times. Us the fans. Us the fans who put our hard earned cash into the coffers of the club. Us the fans who have family diaries dictated by a fixture list so that we can follow the club. Us the fans who love the club and are completely dedicated to it. When its clearly not going well and nobody at the club can see it and when we are told that unless we turn up at Widnes on a Thursday night we can't have a say, thats when we get the right royal ar54.

I don't know how long you have supported the club and frankly I don't really care. But for some of us it aint so easy to say sod it I'm off without so much as a word after all this time supporting the club.

If AP and LR are doing the best they can and all we are doing is standing still at best then maybe they need to man up and either get some outside help or ship out. (Look to Castleford for a club in a far worse situation than us and yet they may well make the top 4. what do they do so differently to the "big" club that is Hull FC?) What they are doing now does not appear to be working. AP went on about our u16s when he took over. The next great crop of youngsters apparently. Yet we seem more intent on shipping some of them out and getting overseas players in. We are merging with the enemy because of cost cutting pure and simple. An exercise which will see further cuts as the funding stream from the fans upset with that will dry up. Wilf being a classic example. a man who regularly goes to watch the academy and goes the extra mile putting his hand in his pocket. That will stop from him and many others.

These are a few of many things that frankly p155 off too many fans now. And if they want to express their opinion on that then so be it. The fans that don't turn up now HAVE to be listened to. The reasons why the don't turn up HAVE to be listened to. If they don't get listened to then many more will drift away and we will be back to the championship and days in Batley, Oxford, London, Gateshead.

Winning will obviously increase gates but the coup for Pearson would be to appoint a first class coach.That would have a bigger impact on fans buying a season pass than signing The likes of Pritchard.It would also show fans he has admitted his mistake appointing Radford.
Apart from Pearson there are very few people who have any faith left in Radford as a coach.

No. Saints have no bank debt, and was majorly financed (currently £15m) by a friend of Eamon McManus who also happens to be a Saints fan. The club can pay this back at any rate, and any debt remaining at the end of the 2018 will be liquidated into shares (or postponed) and the club will again be completely debt free. It will all come down to whether McManus wants to retire, and if he does the baton will be passed into a fan whose already proven his commitment financially (or at least that's my current understanding)

Interesting. If that's the case, how come saints were so skint during the build process?

Mcmanus still poured a lot of his own funds into the project, as well as modernising the training and youth facilities as an aside, and paying off directors loans we had outstanding from the early days of SL at the same time - i think McManus + sale of kr made up the remaining £10m for the stadium. I also think an element of idealism (a saints team in a saints stadium) meant we could have invested more in the playing side but chose not to - but that's more personal conjecture than what the accounts say.

I'll have a closer look on the saints accounts when they're published like I always do, but I'm 95% that's what was gleaned from last years accounts, and presume the accounts this year say the same...

Whatever, you're in a much better financial position than us