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| I used to go to the games every week (180 mile round trip) until a year or so ago, then we started picking and choosing games...and this year I've mainly stuck to Sky and been to about 5 games I think...for me the excitement has completely gone. I used to be excited all week about the upcoming game and used to be proud to talk about supporting Hull...now I can't seem to get excited if we win and I'm not too fussed if we lose...apart from the embarrassment in front of my friends if it's a sky game!
For me, the ambition has gone from both the fans and the club. Recruitment wise, we seem to go for either average unknowns e.g Michaels, Talanoa, Rankin, Tumivave (could turn out to be good, but I'll admit I dont know anything of him), Byrne, Cusack, Maiava etc etc or marquee players / ageing players that are available at the right time..e.g Pryce, Long, Berrigan, Sing and Ellis to an extent. We seem to sign players based on the fact that they're available and trying to make them fit in the team, rather than planning a signing out. Compare our recruitment to Leeds, Wigan and Saints and think how few signings they make, but how well planned they are, e.g Cuthbertson, Galloway...as they know they're going to lose Peacock and Leuluai at the end of the season and so plan accordingly. We sign Tumivave and people don't know whether he will be a stand-off, winger or centre...and I'm not sure the club 100% do either! Once we sign these players, Hull fans being the proud bunch they are will defend each of the signings and say that they add something to the team, if half of our squad played for any other team....we wouldn't rate them as highly as we do.
I struggle to motivate myself to go to games, and when I do I've found them boring sadly...gone are the exciting days from 2003 - 2007 where we had the likes of Barnett, Swain, Best, Kearney, Blacklock etc, even Jamie Thackray, Carvell, Dowes and King used to really run at the line with power and take large run-ups, compare that now to a lot of our players who, whilst they graft and tackle...have lost the excitement factor, which is reflected in the declining attendances and cheering from the crowds.
Rugby league isn't cheap anymore, £23 to watch the game, along with £20 petrol, food and drinks, adds up to around £60 a time...which as people have said is a lot of money each week to go and be bored.
I would like to have the same level of interest as I did a few years ago, but with the pattern of two or three wins followed by two or three losses, endless spin from the club and constantly focusing on "next year" rather than focusing on now, I am finding it difficult to maintain my interest in Hull FC, and can't see it changing anytime soon. Feel free to call me not a true fan but they're just my feelings of the current situation!
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The £11m turnover for Leeds, is this solely the Rhinos or does thus include the Union team? What I do know is, their corporate hospitality is huge in comparison to any other RL club in the UK. Not sure if the Rhinos own their stadium, but I think it maybe part of Caddicks business empire. St's do have their own stadium which I'd imagine they have a decent mortgage to finance it.
Anyway. Realistically what would make the opinion of the stay away fans change? Is it a matter of changing the coach or is it going to take a sustained period of winning to get bums on seats?'"
Winning will obviously increase gates but the coup for Pearson would be to appoint a first class coach.That would have a bigger impact on fans buying a season pass than signing The likes of Pritchard.It would also show fans he has admitted his mistake appointing Radford.
Apart from Pearson there are very few people who have any faith left in Radford as a coach.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The £11m turnover for Leeds, is this solely the Rhinos or does thus include the Union team? What I do know is, their corporate hospitality is huge in comparison to any other RL club in the UK. Not sure if the Rhinos own their stadium, but I think it maybe part of Caddicks business empire. St's do have their own stadium which I'd imagine they have a decent mortgage to finance it.
Anyway. Realistically what would make the opinion of the stay away fans change? Is it a matter of changing the coach or is it going to take a sustained period of winning to get bums on seats?'"
No. Saints have no bank debt, and was majorly financed (currently £15m) by a friend of Eamon McManus who also happens to be a Saints fan. The club can pay this back at any rate, and any debt remaining at the end of the 2018 will be liquidated into shares (or postponed) and the club will again be completely debt free. It will all come down to whether McManus wants to retire, and if he does the baton will be passed into a fan whose already proven his commitment financially (or at least that's my current understanding)
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "No. Saints have no bank debt, and was majorly financed (currently £15m) by a friend of Eamon McManus who also happens to be a Saints fan. The club can pay this back at any rate, and any debt remaining at the end of the 2018 will be liquidated into shares (or postponed) and the club will again be completely debt free. It will all come down to whether McManus wants to retire, and if he does the baton will be passed into a fan whose already proven his commitment financially (or at least that's my current understanding)'"
Interesting. If that's the case, how come saints were so skint during the build process?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Interesting. If that's the case, how come saints were so skint during the build process?'"
Mcmanus still poured a lot of his own funds into the project, as well as modernising the training and youth facilities as an aside, and paying off directors loans we had outstanding from the early days of SL at the same time - i think McManus + sale of kr made up the remaining £10m for the stadium. I also think an element of idealism (a saints team in a saints stadium) meant we could have invested more in the playing side but chose not to - but that's more personal conjecture than what the accounts say.
I'll have a closer look on the saints accounts when they're published like I always do, but I'm 95% that's what was gleaned from last years accounts, and presume the accounts this year say the same...
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Mcmanus still poured a lot of his own funds into the project, as well as modernising the training and youth facilities as an aside, and paying off directors loans we had outstanding from the early days of SL at the same time - i think McManus + sale of kr made up the remaining £10m for the stadium. I also think an element of idealism (a saints team in a saints stadium) meant we could have invested more in the playing side but chose not to - but that's more personal conjecture than what the accounts say.
I'll have a closer look on the saints accounts when they're published like I always do, but I'm 95% that's what was gleaned from last years accounts, and presume the accounts this year say the same...'"
Whatever, you're in a much better financial position than us
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