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| I'll probably regret this post but in my opinion in answer to the initial poster I think that the Club are just trying to be realistic really, the cash just isn't coming in and it doesn't look like that is going to change anytime soon. Pearson is forking out week in week out while income must obviously be going down on a weekly basis too.
Adam Pearson said on Humberside that the merger is in his opinion good for youth development but went on to say when pressed that it is in some part to save money and added that if we don't buy season tickets and start attending games again it will be down to 'passing the buckets round' which I think is an incite into what they are thinking and how strapped for cash we are.
However for me they don't seem to get it because we have got things the wrong way round. The issue with everything to do with a professional sports Club is geared to how much the team inspires the fans and captures their imagination. That puts bums on seats and sells the shirts. That's why in other sports coaches get sacked and players have to move on.
I think myself that playing well, looking good and offering some HOPE is what brings people back but bumping along in mid to lower table as we do year in year out just sees people getting fed up with the same old and walking away. Where we are at this moment after two good wins and then a very, very poor display against a top team is a place we have been in time and again for years and years and its bloody soul destroying.
I'm not getting into coach or player bashing but the thing that is radically wrong is the product it's that which gives people some hope and at present ts that which is driving people away. There seems to be no improvement at all in that same old culture and mental approach, well there is little evidence in this seasons results that much is changing is there?
That trend has to be reversed and action to do that however unpalatable or costly in the short term has to be taken. To simply look at ways of making savings is a downward spiral and we have to give the fans that hope again that one day we will be a top Club again. However unlikely that aspiration is. Blind faith wares very thin after time.
That is the only thing that will make them start to come back to games and subscribe to season tickets. We had 20,000 at Wembley two years ago so there are potentially some 12,000 out there who are interested enough to travel down to London to watch the FC, we simply have to produce the product to get some of those back to games. However if they were sat at home on Thursday watching Sky then its going to be a long haul but that's the fault of the quality of the product rather than anything else at the Club. Why should they shell out over £20 to watch that? Just my view of course, we're all entitled to them.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The £11m turnover for Leeds, is this solely the Rhinos or does thus include the Union team? What I do know is, their corporate hospitality is huge in comparison to any other RL club in the UK. Not sure if the Rhinos own their stadium, but I think it maybe part of Caddicks business empire. St's do have their own stadium which I'd imagine they have a decent mortgage to finance it.
Anyway. Realistically what would make the opinion of the stay away fans change? Is it a matter of changing the coach or is it going to take a sustained period of winning to get bums on seats?'"
Winning will obviously increase gates but the coup for Pearson would be to appoint a first class coach.That would have a bigger impact on fans buying a season pass than signing The likes of Pritchard.It would also show fans he has admitted his mistake appointing Radford.
Apart from Pearson there are very few people who have any faith left in Radford as a coach.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The £11m turnover for Leeds, is this solely the Rhinos or does thus include the Union team? What I do know is, their corporate hospitality is huge in comparison to any other RL club in the UK. Not sure if the Rhinos own their stadium, but I think it maybe part of Caddicks business empire. St's do have their own stadium which I'd imagine they have a decent mortgage to finance it.
Anyway. Realistically what would make the opinion of the stay away fans change? Is it a matter of changing the coach or is it going to take a sustained period of winning to get bums on seats?'"
No. Saints have no bank debt, and was majorly financed (currently £15m) by a friend of Eamon McManus who also happens to be a Saints fan. The club can pay this back at any rate, and any debt remaining at the end of the 2018 will be liquidated into shares (or postponed) and the club will again be completely debt free. It will all come down to whether McManus wants to retire, and if he does the baton will be passed into a fan whose already proven his commitment financially (or at least that's my current understanding)
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "No. Saints have no bank debt, and was majorly financed (currently £15m) by a friend of Eamon McManus who also happens to be a Saints fan. The club can pay this back at any rate, and any debt remaining at the end of the 2018 will be liquidated into shares (or postponed) and the club will again be completely debt free. It will all come down to whether McManus wants to retire, and if he does the baton will be passed into a fan whose already proven his commitment financially (or at least that's my current understanding)'"
Interesting. If that's the case, how come saints were so skint during the build process?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Interesting. If that's the case, how come saints were so skint during the build process?'"
Mcmanus still poured a lot of his own funds into the project, as well as modernising the training and youth facilities as an aside, and paying off directors loans we had outstanding from the early days of SL at the same time - i think McManus + sale of kr made up the remaining £10m for the stadium. I also think an element of idealism (a saints team in a saints stadium) meant we could have invested more in the playing side but chose not to - but that's more personal conjecture than what the accounts say.
I'll have a closer look on the saints accounts when they're published like I always do, but I'm 95% that's what was gleaned from last years accounts, and presume the accounts this year say the same...
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Mcmanus still poured a lot of his own funds into the project, as well as modernising the training and youth facilities as an aside, and paying off directors loans we had outstanding from the early days of SL at the same time - i think McManus + sale of kr made up the remaining £10m for the stadium. I also think an element of idealism (a saints team in a saints stadium) meant we could have invested more in the playing side but chose not to - but that's more personal conjecture than what the accounts say.
I'll have a closer look on the saints accounts when they're published like I always do, but I'm 95% that's what was gleaned from last years accounts, and presume the accounts this year say the same...'"
Whatever, you're in a much better financial position than us
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