Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"again, a LINK TO THE FACTS. Hull FC signed a lease agreement, stop peddling your nonsense, it's embarrassing for you.'" Hull City Council briefing note Date 12 December 2014 "2.2 Hull City Council built the KC Stadium in 2002 at a cost of approximately £44m. The stadium is subject to a 50 year head lease with the Stadium Management Company (SMC) and Mr Adam Pearson dated 1st September 2004. The lease indicates that at the point of completion Mr Pearson was the sole shareholder of the SMC. Hull City Football Club and Hull FC Super League have user rights, but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property" Link: https://cmis.hullcc.gov.uk/CMIS/Documen ... Ff55vVA%3D

Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"again, a LINK TO THE FACTS. Hull FC signed a lease agreement, stop peddling your nonsense, it's embarrassing for you.'" Hull City Council briefing note Date 12 December 2014 "2.2 Hull City Council built the KC Stadium in 2002 at a cost of approximately £44m. The stadium is subject to a 50 year head lease with the Stadium Management Company (SMC) and Mr Adam Pearson dated 1st September 2004. The lease indicates that at the point of completion Mr Pearson was the sole shareholder of the SMC. Hull City Football Club and Hull FC Super League have user rights, but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property" Link: https://cmis.hullcc.gov.uk/CMIS/Documen ... Ff55vVA%3D

Quote Obadiah="Obadiah"Hull City Council briefing note Date 12 December 2014 "2.2 Hull City Council built the KC Stadium in 2002 at a cost of approximately £44m. The stadium is subject to a 50 year head lease with the Stadium Management Company (SMC) and Mr Adam Pearson dated 1st September 2004. The lease indicates that at the point of completion Mr Pearson was the sole shareholder of the SMC. Hull City Football Club and Hull FC Super League have user rights, but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property" Link: https://cmis.hullcc.gov.uk/CMIS/Documen ... Ff55vVA%3D'" So "legal interest in the property", that doesn't mean a LEGAL TENANCY AGREEMENT, enjoy championship football, troll.

Quote Obadiah="Obadiah"Hull City Council briefing note Date 12 December 2014 "2.2 Hull City Council built the KC Stadium in 2002 at a cost of approximately £44m. The stadium is subject to a 50 year head lease with the Stadium Management Company (SMC) and Mr Adam Pearson dated 1st September 2004. The lease indicates that at the point of completion Mr Pearson was the sole shareholder of the SMC. Hull City Football Club and Hull FC Super League have user rights, but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property" Link: https://cmis.hullcc.gov.uk/CMIS/Documen ... Ff55vVA%3D'" So "legal interest in the property", that doesn't mean a LEGAL TENANCY AGREEMENT, enjoy championship football, troll.

There's no rent payable though, is there? There are central costs of maintenance, utilities, stewarding, ticketing and so on. Many of these vary with customer volumes, not simply occasions of use, surely?

Having a legal interest in a property does mean having a legal tenancy or lease agreement.

The City Council document says that Hull FC have user rights but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property. What the documents says is neither Hull City or Hull FC have any legal interest in the KC because they are not tenants.

Hull FC have a contract which is legally binding with the SMC for the use of the KC. That isn't transferable to the Council if the lease is revoked.

again, untrue.

Surely if the SMC deal is terminated, the council will use it's new leisure management entity to operate the stadium. We can't really prejudge their cost allocation mechanics.

All that would be up for negotiation. Why would Assem Allam agree to the same terms for Hull City AFC that he's got now? If he doesn't agree, how can the Council enforce a new agreement? Wouldn't the Council look at issuing long term lease agreements for both Hull FC and Hull City AFC? How would the Council ensure that the KC at least broke even?

If the Council revoke the lease then surely they won't repeat the mistakes of the past and set up something similar?

... the trouble is, "something similar" appeared to work ok until Mr Allam took over.
This is what people (well, me anyway) can't understand.

That is because there was goodwill on all sides. That has gone as was plainly obvious when the Allams evicted the sports groups from the Airco. The Allams do what is best for them as Ehab said in his interview with David Burns. If the upkeep of the KC is costing them millions each year the only way they can get out of that is by the Council revoking the lease and renegotiating a new arrangement for Hull City AFC's use of the KC. The Council become responsible for the repairs and Hull City just pay a fair rent.

Quote Obadiah="Obadiah"That is because there was goodwill on all sides. That has gone as was plainly obvious when the Allams evicted the sports groups from the Airco. The Allams do what is best for them as Ehab said in his interview with David Burns. If the upkeep of the KC is costing them millions each year the only way they can get out of that is by the Council revoking the lease and renegotiating a new arrangement for Hull City AFC's use of the KC. The Council become responsible for the repairs and Hull City just pay a fair rent.'" again LIES, is your email address a.a@deluded.co.uk?

Quote Obadiah="Obadiah"That is because there was goodwill on all sides. That has gone as was plainly obvious when the Allams evicted the sports groups from the Airco. The Allams do what is best for them as Ehab said in his interview with David Burns. If the upkeep of the KC is costing them millions each year the only way they can get out of that is by the Council revoking the lease and renegotiating a new arrangement for Hull City AFC's use of the KC. The Council become responsible for the repairs and Hull City just pay a fair rent.'" again LIES, is your email address a.a@deluded.co.uk?

Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"again LIES, is your email address a.a@deluded.co.uk?'" No.

Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"again LIES, is your email address a.a@deluded.co.uk?'" No.