Depends on what is included in the rent.

I wouldn't expect Hull City Council to include the cost of stewards and the police in the rent. If they provide the stewards then it should be charged separately. Renting the KC for the day should be the same whether its Rugby League or Association Football.

I agree the council have little appetite to run the stadium, they set up the SMC in the first place to have a cost-neutral third party custodian, foregoing a share of the income generated for the avoidance of cost and hassle of running it themselves. They found a reasonable partner in AP, but didn't future-proof the arrangement. The deal looks like it's similar to the one they struck with Hull KR when they repurchased the freehold of New Craven Park to allow Rovers to avoid folding, then set up a peppercorn lease with Gaingroup who sublet to Rovers. I'm not sure of the split of cost ownership between Gaingroup (now KCD) and Hull KR, but KR get all the stadium revenue and pay for maintenance, stewarding etc. Essentially it looks like all the clubs are rent free, courtesy of the council? It would seem that costs at the KC are broadly allocated on gate receipts - you have, what, double our gates, twice as many fixtures and charge 50% more, roughly an uplift of x6

the deal is also similar to Swansea City's which has been criticised by the EU. If the lease was terminated by the Council any future lease would have to be profitable. However its probable the Allams would want to pay the same rent as Hull FC for use of the stadium. If you rent office space you'd expect to pay the same price per square foot as the other tenants unless you got extras in the tenancy. The rent wouldn't be dependant on how much profit you made.

Not sure of all the financials involved but wouldn't city be financially better off if the lease was terminated, a lease per foot agreed and put them in a more saleable position? So if Allam has given up on getting the KC he would be better off forcing the councils hands to Cancel the lease and almost set the rent at what he's willing to pay as who else will go in there.

The councils only other option would be to leave it empty and let it rot.

It is only fair if it is done per match and only for the hire of the stadium, staffing and security would need to be an additional fee, as we already know the soccer fans find it hard to control themselves

again, a LINK TO THE FACTS. Hull FC signed a lease agreement, stop peddling your nonsense, it's embarrassing for you.

Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"again, a LINK TO THE FACTS. Hull FC signed a lease agreement, stop peddling your nonsense, it's embarrassing for you.'" Hull City Council briefing note Date 12 December 2014 "2.2 Hull City Council built the KC Stadium in 2002 at a cost of approximately £44m. The stadium is subject to a 50 year head lease with the Stadium Management Company (SMC) and Mr Adam Pearson dated 1st September 2004. The lease indicates that at the point of completion Mr Pearson was the sole shareholder of the SMC. Hull City Football Club and Hull FC Super League have user rights, but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property" Link: https://cmis.hullcc.gov.uk/CMIS/Documen ... Ff55vVA%3D

Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"again, a LINK TO THE FACTS. Hull FC signed a lease agreement, stop peddling your nonsense, it's embarrassing for you.'" Hull City Council briefing note Date 12 December 2014 "2.2 Hull City Council built the KC Stadium in 2002 at a cost of approximately £44m. The stadium is subject to a 50 year head lease with the Stadium Management Company (SMC) and Mr Adam Pearson dated 1st September 2004. The lease indicates that at the point of completion Mr Pearson was the sole shareholder of the SMC. Hull City Football Club and Hull FC Super League have user rights, but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property" Link: https://cmis.hullcc.gov.uk/CMIS/Documen ... Ff55vVA%3D

Quote Obadiah="Obadiah"Hull City Council briefing note Date 12 December 2014 "2.2 Hull City Council built the KC Stadium in 2002 at a cost of approximately £44m. The stadium is subject to a 50 year head lease with the Stadium Management Company (SMC) and Mr Adam Pearson dated 1st September 2004. The lease indicates that at the point of completion Mr Pearson was the sole shareholder of the SMC. Hull City Football Club and Hull FC Super League have user rights, but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property" Link: https://cmis.hullcc.gov.uk/CMIS/Documen ... Ff55vVA%3D'" So "legal interest in the property", that doesn't mean a LEGAL TENANCY AGREEMENT, enjoy championship football, troll.

Quote Obadiah="Obadiah"Hull City Council briefing note Date 12 December 2014 "2.2 Hull City Council built the KC Stadium in 2002 at a cost of approximately £44m. The stadium is subject to a 50 year head lease with the Stadium Management Company (SMC) and Mr Adam Pearson dated 1st September 2004. The lease indicates that at the point of completion Mr Pearson was the sole shareholder of the SMC. Hull City Football Club and Hull FC Super League have user rights, but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property" Link: https://cmis.hullcc.gov.uk/CMIS/Documen ... Ff55vVA%3D'" So "legal interest in the property", that doesn't mean a LEGAL TENANCY AGREEMENT, enjoy championship football, troll.

There's no rent payable though, is there? There are central costs of maintenance, utilities, stewarding, ticketing and so on. Many of these vary with customer volumes, not simply occasions of use, surely?

Having a legal interest in a property does mean having a legal tenancy or lease agreement.

The City Council document says that Hull FC have user rights but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property. What the documents says is neither Hull City or Hull FC have any legal interest in the KC because they are not tenants.

Hull FC have a contract which is legally binding with the SMC for the use of the KC. That isn't transferable to the Council if the lease is revoked.

again, untrue.