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Quote: Jake the Peg "Not a disaster if we lose IMO. widnes only have 2 more home games after Thursday and they're gash away plus we have wakey twice still to play so I still think we can finish ahead of them if we lose. Would be great to get a win but it's tough there with the plastic pitch being a massive advantage for them'"

Sorry to disappoint you, Jake, but Widnes have 3 more home games after Thursday namely Huddersfield, Catalans and Salford, all well winnable. Our remaining away games are Hull KR, Castleford and Wigan. Interesting end to season. Should be a cracker on Thursday, and we definitely owe you one after last season, when you absolutely steamrollered us.

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[b:16wvcohs]"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - [i:16wvcohs]Peter Sterling[/i:16wvcohs][/b:16wvcohs] [quote="Adam Pearson said not":16wvcohs][b:16wvcohs]I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more[/b:16wvcohs][/quote:16wvcohs]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12839.png



Quote: carl_spackler "That doesn't read to me like you thought we were making gradual progress up until that point, and I wouldn't call the amount of improvement we've made since that point in the space of a month gradual.'"


I wrote that because when we play poorly I don't accept garbage about 'blokes not turning up'. I don't accept anything other than 100% effort and commitment to the cause as an absolute base minimum. When I think it doesn't happen then I will be the heaviest critic on here. Hence the post. To be fair to Radford during his tenure there's generally been bags of effort at most games with the players clearly backing the coach. If you want an illustration of a big improvement I would say there's one there for you. Think about the game just prior to Radford's first game in charge.

I've been entirely consistent with my approach this season. I said before it started that Radford needed 10 games to continue on the improvement that we made at the back end of last season. After the KR defeat at Easter I thought that 4 points wouldn't be enough, however the completion of the 10 games saw us on 8 points after impressive wins against Saints and Widnes. So I then thought he should have until the end of the season to see where we finish, particularly as we'd also lost two games by one point against Wire and Wigan. If we stay relatively injury free I hope we can rally into the end of the season and do OK. The new players Radford has brought in in Minichiello, Pryce and Sneyd have settled in well now. Watts is playing some of the best rugby of his career under Radford and in general there's signs we're playing to our potential. Good on Radford and long may it continue - I'm glad Pearson has stuck with him while some fans gave up attending but the end of the season will determine the ultimate level of success. If we fall away again then it wouldn't be acceptable.

That's the end of this conversation from my side - I'm bored with it so everyone else must be suicidal.

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Quote: Kosh "We must be the only fans in SL who'd have a heated post-mortem about why we're playing well.

Personally I don't care if it's down to Radford, the players, injuries, blood sacrifices to the Elder Gods - whatever. Long may it continue.

Oh - and if Radford got the lion's share of the blame when we were rubbish it's only fair he gets some praise when things have turned around.'"


I don't think it was particularly heated, tbh. I also don't think it's any more unusual or unmerited to discuss why we're playing well than it was to discuss why we were playing badly. It's useful to understand and learn from both IMO, and it's nice to be in a position to now do so.

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Quote: Staffs FC "I wrote that because when we play poorly I don't accept garbage about 'blokes not turning up'. I don't accept anything other than 100% effort and commitment to the cause as an absolute base minimum. When I think it doesn't happen then I will be the heaviest critic on here. Hence the post. To be fair to Radford during his tenure there's generally been bags of effort at most games with the players clearly backing the coach. If you want an illustration of a big improvement I would say there's one there for you. Think about the game just prior to Radford's first game in charge.

I've been entirely consistent with my approach this season. I said before it started that Radford needed 10 games to continue on the improvement that we made at the back end of last season. After the KR defeat at Easter I thought that 4 points wouldn't be enough, however the completion of the 10 games saw us on 8 points after impressive wins against Saints and Widnes. So I then thought he should have until the end of the season to see where we finish, particularly as we'd also lost two games by one point against Wire and Wigan. If we stay relatively injury free I hope we can rally into the end of the season and do OK. The new players Radford has brought in in Minichiello, Pryce and Sneyd have settled in well now. Watts is playing some of the best rugby of his career under Radford and in general there's signs we're playing to our potential. Good on Radford and long may it continue - I'm glad Pearson has stuck with him while some fans gave up attending but the end of the season will determine the ultimate level of success. If we fall away again then it wouldn't be acceptable.

That's the end of this conversation from my side - I'm bored with it so everyone else must be suicidal.'"


Fair enough. I still don't agree, but there's not really much more to be added without going around in circles.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Fair enough. I still don't agree, but there's not really much more to be added without going around in circles.'"


Agreed. We don't always agree but I respect your opinion and you always argue your case well. No problem debating in that environment. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Staffs FC "Agreed. We don't always agree but I respect your opinion and you always argue your case well. No problem debating in that environment.
Echo that sentiment. Debate is always welcome and can stay friendly when people refrain from insults/ridicule and assess the points being made rather than the poster making them.

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