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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Who has been suggesting everything's changed because of fan pressure?'"
Some people just like to make stuff up. Not a single person has suggested fan pressure has played any part whatsoever. It's laughable really.
The way I see it Radford has allowed/empowered the players to take a few more risks with the ball in recent weeks. It looks like the players have really bought into it and confidence is growing. Whatever the reason for this change I welcome it and think Radford deserves some credit for making the change.
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| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"Some people just like to make stuff up. Not a single person has suggested fan pressure has played any part whatsoever. It's laughable really.
The way I see it Radford has allowed/empowered the players to take a few more risks with the ball in recent weeks. It looks like the players have really bought into it and confidence is growing. Whatever the reason for this change I welcome it and think Radford deserves some credit for making the change.'"
Maybe they are playing to win now instead of playing not to lose
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Who has been suggesting everything's changed because of fan pressure?'"
Bumpy mentioned it as a possibility.
Quote Jake the Peg="KnockersBumpMKII"BUT I'm not so blind as some, there either an outside influence on how & why we've so rapidly changed what we were doing in attack or the coach has had an epiphany on the back of what fans have said'"
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| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"Some people just like to make stuff up. Not a single person has suggested fan pressure has played any part whatsoever. It's laughable really.'"
Really?
Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"We play really boring uninspiring rugby so the fans get fed up and start to call for the coach to sort it out or go. The coach eventually appears to change philosophy with the game plan.'"
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Who has been suggesting everything's changed because of fan pressure?'"
I'm wondering that, too.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"I'm wondering that, too.'"
Why? There's been two examples quoted so far.
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| Typical Hull FC: blame the fans when we are losing but can't give credit to the boo boys when we win.
I think what has happened is that the coaching staff have finally found a way to get us playing better. They have been watching the same dross as we have but haven't managed to do anything about it. Now they have. It wasn't the threat of a petition that suddenly made Radford realize that we were losing games. Its just that what he was doing wasn't working.
Now, fingers crossed that we continue to show improvements. I can't help but feel that our new confidence is fragile.
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Really?
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Nowhere does that claim that the first point influenced the other. In fact in the original post in full, it clearly identifies a team meeting as the likely reason, not fan pressure.
The original post was asking where the Radford critics are now that we've played well, in a goading manner possibly implying that those critics are/were wrong. It was the latest in a growing theme over the last 2 weeks seemingly wanting to have a go at the fans who are/were vocally unhappy with how we were playing. Robbo's post very sensibly pointed out the bizarre (non-)logic of questioning why those fans are no longer complaining now that things have changed and implying that change and improvement happening is somehow proof that they were wrong.
It's very simple, those unhappy with how we've been playing have had nothing to be unhappy about for the last 2 weeks. This doesn't mean they were wrong prior to that, it in fact (with notable exceptions) means that they are being entirely fair and rational in their assessments and not stubbornly ripping in when it is not justified. The fact that there isn't instant gushing praise is merely because 2 games is a very small sample size to be convinced that it is not just another false dawn.
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Why? There's been two examples quoted so far.'"
See my post. One is not an example, one is, but is the notable example I alluded to.
I think that there's a bit of tarring with one brush going on. One stubborn lunatic does not constitute 'some fans' IMO.
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| Quote C for Cuckoo="C for Cuckoo"Typical Hull FC: blame the fans when we are losing but can't give credit to the boo boys when we win.
I think what has happened is that the coaching staff have finally found a way to get us playing better. They have been watching the same dross as we have but haven't managed to do anything about it. Now they have. It wasn't the threat of a petition that suddenly made Radford realize that we were losing games. Its just that what he was doing wasn't working.
Now, fingers crossed that we continue to show improvements. I can't help but feel that our new confidence is fragile.'"
Think we'll find out Friday night, usually good game against saints at the KC, might even suggest we've turned a corner if we win! Personally think the recent change in play is down to more than Radford realising what he was doing wasn't working! Surely wouldn't of taken this long to work that out. Whatever it is, long may it continue
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| Quote C for Cuckoo="C for Cuckoo"Typical Hull FC: blame the fans when we are losing but can't give credit to the boo boys when we win.'"
Don't agree in the main. Always exceptions, but mostly I think people will be happy if they see the team playing the way we want, and will openly say as much if they are confident it is something that will continue.
Quote C for Cuckoo="C for Cuckoo"I think what has happened is that the coaching staff have finally found a way to get us playing better. They have been watching the same dross as we have but haven't managed to do anything about it. Now they have. It wasn't the threat of a petition that suddenly made Radford realize that we were losing games. Its just that what he was doing wasn't working.
Now, fingers crossed that we continue to show improvements. I can't help but feel that our new confidence is fragile.'"
I do agree with that.
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