Well i decided to give this match a swerve, and im glad i did, even if we eventually win this game, it just shows how poor we really are

When was this? Wasn't that Andy Last's job?

I agree. Obviously to many it's now desirable to paint McRae as a complete villain and blame him for most of our woes, but the fact remains that his 2 spells at Hull have coincided with our youth setup improving, and it was pants in the interim. I personally find it hard not to see the 2 as linked.

There's also a massive difference between young players making their debuts, and young players looking ready for their debuts. As much as Gentle is also a target for allegedly not wanting to play youngsters (something we only have the current setups claim for), the only hard evidence available to us is that he did play them, and a considerable majority of them did not look out of their depth when they came in (I'll make the obvious point - dream team). I remember very few looking out of their depth. Radford has since been bestowed this role as champion of the youth system despite the fact that he only looks to them when he has no choice, drops them again pretty much as soon as he can, and some of those who came in under Gentle and looked ok look worse now.

There's been some massive propaganda gone on over the last 18 months IMO.

Again, a good point I agree with. Over the last decade or so we have IMO often mistaken a competitive U19s side for a strong youth system. The core purpose for a youth system is to provide the first team with players of high enough quality, and for the first team to then improve them further. For a lot of years we haven't actually seen this.

When have I ever said LR would punch someone? I said the personal slagging is out of order, the wire game was a good effort but we gained nothing from it, at the end of the season we won't stay in SL because we played decent against wire we will stay in with points picked up, & LR was u20s coach.

Sorry, I'll hold my hands up, I got your posts mixed up with others in the anti-tampering thread. I saw that you responded to it and didn't realise the initial post came from Legends and Icons. I apologise.



I agree about personal criticism being out of order, especially if people are doing it to him in the street etc. I also agree with Bombed Out though that things like this brought up on this board are not actually applicable to the vast majority of content on here.

The Wire game, that's not the point you made. You said no one remembers the decent performances, only the results. That's clearly not true. It has been specifically identified and used as an example of what we want from the team.

U20s coach, I see. When you said head I thought you meant running the youth side, which was supposedly Last.