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It's interesting to see the reaction of people on here. 12 months ago it was a definite split. Those who stated its not the coach who tells players to drop balls and miss tackles, and others who felt that it was the coaches failings. (That's a simplified summary of feelings 12months ago).
I have been in the give Radford a chance as he has the job, but I didn't want him in the first place, camp. I personally felt at no time last season that we had any signs of improving under LR. He changed the philosophy of the team over night, from a team going in the right direction under PG after the debacle of Agar, to absolute dross. He styles us on the Bulls style of play instigated by Noble under which he got success. That was a style of the 1990s. It's not effective anymore. The game has advanced in style and technique from those days.
Knockers Bump was quite outspoken in saying what ability LR had in close season. I argued that he and we couldn't possibly know what courses, experience etc LR had picked up and that we should wait until Easter.
Well Easter came and we were dire vs HKR. We had a patched up bunch team vs Sts who happen to have a patched up bunch of kids and we got a rare win. We then beat a Widnes team who you could argue beat themselves.
Then Sheffield who competed admirably against us and troubled us at times. Yet nobody and I mean nobody was getting carried away. Our attack was still woeful and we simply relied on our defence. Well that only gets you so far in modern day full time rugby league.

I strongly believe Radford led a mutiny against PG. he is the one who has gained most from it. In my opinion he should be charged with fraud. He has totally misrepresented himself and Adam like a fool fell for it. After all if its too good to be true there has to be a catch.
Sadly the catch is that Adam has dug himself a bloody big bunker into which he has no escape. He's backed LR fully for reasons only he can explain. All I can see LR has done in the off season is paint a building and call it The Boulevard which will by all accounts inspire the squad (another fraudulent act).

So Adam if you do read this forum, and in all honesty to gauge some fans reaction he should, then enjoy the ride. Fans are deserting the KC. Not the club as they will be back once things improve. It's an expensive business following a team. So none of this IAKOW stuff. It's all about entertainment and value for money. Times are hard and not getting easier, so the more reasons you give supporters not to go the more they will not go. Pass holders will attend or be counted, but the walk ups will not. Shirt sales will drop and income will drop, but whatever you do don't blame us fans, as its your incompetence and that of the coaching staff that has caused that and not stay away fans.

Start immediately with a new coaching team who can inspire a half decent bunch of players and you might just keep the fans who go week in week out. Failure to act and its Bradford, Leigh, (hopefully) London and Sheffield again in the summer.

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Surely there are other assistant out there who could come in and do a supporting job with a view to eventually having effectively two head coaches. I like Radders. I think the ethos of the club and (generally) the defensive displays have been ok. I just think he needs a bit more support in attack, because it really is dire.

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For me the problem still remains in that the club constantly rewards failure when it comes to the Coaching appointments. In that I mean we have always promoted the assistants to failed Head coaches. These assistants have been part and parcel of the general malaise and poor performances so should have gone at the same time as the Head Coaches.

For Radford to have been any kind of success he would have either needed Head Coach experience at this level or been appointed with the club at the top of its game in terms of on the field success.

Pearson was right in the appointment of Gentle but unfortunately he was let down by McRae the same as Pearson himself. I also think that Radford was riding on the back of what Gentle had put in place but now is lost and sinking.

Currently with Radford and last who have seen very little outside the bubble of Hull FC as coaches we could have the current Australian National Team as our 1st team squad but we would still fail due to the poor coaching and inability to change the game plan and instill a winning mentality into the players and bring the best out of them.

If Pearson fails to axe Radford soon then he wont have to worry too much about the fans reaction at the games as there will be very few left.

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Quote: Doc Brown "Signs regarding Horne look good so far so if there was a clear out then he would be worth retaining IMO. In fact I'd say anyone else associated with the U19's should be kept on. They seem to be doing a good job.'"

If I was AP and had the money to do it I'd find a new experienced coach with his own assistants who have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Hull or the Club or area. I'd out all of the existing incumbents which may be harsh on Horne but he needs to go and learn the job elsewhere first. The club is insular and amateurish in , at least , all of it's customer facing aspects and regrettably getting worse. The good back office people have gone or are going and we're left with a group headed by "Clarkie" who epitomises everything bad about communication and PR. His spin is just hollow and is convincing less and less people all of the time.
Of course that won't happen or can't happen for reasons that only AP knows but it's looking more and more likely it's a lack of funds or an unwillingness to throw good money after bad ( regardless of why we're in this position it's still his money and the current situation is hardly going to enthuse him to keep on spending). I think he's got his eggs in the Challenge Cup basket and believes that Wakey will save us from relegation this year. If that is the case and he's quietly looking for a replacement coaching team then I guess it makes some sense to do nothing now. From a season pass sale point of view he needs a big story if the season continues to go down the pan so a cup run in the short term and a new coach announced when the passes go on sale with a couple of signings may help bolster the numbers and persuade everyone to give him one more last chance. If he isn't looking for a replacement and prepared to admit to himself at least that Club Hull is the last thing an insular outfit at the end of the M62 needs then God help us.
If AP can't change the whole coaching set up then my plan B would be go get an experienced assistant or attack coach or DOR or whatever title you want to give him and replace Last now. Someone with some gravitas and respect in the game. If that cost double Last's salary until the end of the season it would be worth a shot. It might just give everyone a lift and enthuse the players enough to at least make an attempt to get in the 8.

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Quote: ChrisH " If AP can't change the whole coaching set up then my plan B would be go get an experienced assistant or attack coach '"


But that's not the answer is it? - it would simply give Radford someone else to blame.
He would still be in overall charge. Game plan, team selection, recruitment etc & I don't know what an `attack coach is expected to do with
a 3/4 line of donkeys (Lineham excepted.).An `attack coach' would be looking for skill, pace & flair, & that type of player doesn't fit Radfords bash & barge `strategy'.
Can anyone tell me which one of those traits Talanoa. Yeaman, or Sa possess?
Yeaman - well past it,
Sa. - a couple of big hits on the opposition & 3 weeks injured
Talanoa - slow, dodgy under a high ball, but his enthusiasm seems to endear him to a lot of the fans,
We need a clearout ASAp overseen by a new coach, but I can't see it happening unless Pearson grows a pair.

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Quote: westdock boy in oz "But that's not the answer is it? - it would simply give Radford someone else to blame.
He would still be in overall charge. Game plan, team selection, recruitment etc & I don't know what an `attack coach is expected to do with
a 3/4 line of donkeys (Lineham excepted.).An `attack coach' would be looking for skill, pace & flair, & that type of player doesn't fit Radfords bash & barge `strategy'.
Can anyone tell me which one of those traits Talanoa. Yeaman, or Sa possess?
Yeaman - well past it,
Sa. - a couple of big hits on the opposition & 3 weeks injured
Talanoa - slow, dodgy under a high ball, but his enthusiasm seems to endear him to a lot of the fans,
We need a clearout ASAp overseen by a new coach, but I can't see it happening unless Pearson grows a pair.'"

Agree absolutely but the clear out won't/can't happen and the situation is desperate. Bringing someone in at least gives a chance of a short term improvement. If it fails then the clearout happens at the end of the season anyway. If it works it's because of the new guy.

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