hoping for an FC win, but not confident, will need an 80 minute performance.

If we did everything because of history , it would be a boring life . So you think we"ll finish in the bottom 4 again , saints win grand final again , man city the premiership etc etc etc . Are you one of these that as the same routine week after week year after year !

So you think bookies shouldn't take past games, form, league position & previous years league position into account?

chelsea will win the prem, other than that pretty much spot on

Maybe form and maybe league position but not always . And definatly not previous games over the years . If so , hull will hardly win at Cas again , and if u go on previous league position hull would have won last season . It's all about the present not the past surely and Cas are not that good this year in my eyes apart from meeting Wigan at the right time .

Think your missing my point

But it's not your eyes that count it's the bookies opinions.
And as said it goes on past and current form of which Cas have been performing better then us and we've not won there in 3 years. Nothing to do with the past.
Not hard really.

Last year they beat us by three. The year before by two. We are slightly better this year, they are somewhat worse. I don't quite see how that translates to us needing an 8 point start but I bow to the bookies. I thought Widnes would stay withing 12 of Salford last night and I was way out.

I have a bad feeling about this game. The only thing we can do back-to-back is disappoint.

if the bookies are so so wrong, then there will be a lot of millionaires in hull tonight! Cas by 4 for me, but I won't lump on, not that confident

Jack Logan in tonight?

EDIT: Confirmed - Logan replaces Yeaman who has a groin injury.

Yeaman out... groin injury..