so why was it only an 11 point win? that is whatI mean by closing the game out, Leeds or Saints would have put another 30/40 on them, that is where I want us to be, and with better attacking flair (and by the sounds of it, better refereeing) we could be.

How many points did Saints beat them by this season.

The reason it wasn't more is that we let it two sloppy try's, lost 3 players to injury two of them key players so only had one sub and Zeb Taia is hard to tackle.

It was a comfy win against a team tipped by many to finish in the top 4.

Fair enough, lets see if we can string a few wins together, if Widnes and Wakefield win tomorrow we are back at the bottom (well, according to my workings out we are)

Agreed, next two games are massive, think we need to win them both.

Cas
KR
Saints
Widnes
Wakey
Huddersfield

we need 4 from those 6 matches, none are un-winnable.

We were OK, better than we have been and when we started to play more off the cuff we looked better. Defence was sloppy at times and I'm glad they didn't hit our right edge more in that 2nd half as lineham was a passenger in defence. We did have a massive amount of posession (60-70% at a guess) and a massive amount of field position so we really should have scored more tries. A couple more tries for us and them not scoring the 2 we gifted them would have been a fairer reflection on the game.

If Widnes win by 2-4 points then both Widnes & KR will go below us, if they win by 5+ then just KR will go below us.
If Wakey win by 11-22 points then both Wakey & Hudds will go below us, if they win by 24+ just Hudds will go below.

That's all if I've worked the points differences right of course. So we could be anywhere between bottom & 8th come Monday.

always tight at the start of the league, difficult to know when to make an initial judgement with the split coming in, used to say around round 8/9 was when the table really started to mean something, not sure this season.

Yep, the only team performing as expected at the minute are Saints & that's without Luke Walsh!

So, once again, you weren't actually there. Had you been you would have been able to form the same opinion as the other posters on here.

I supported England in Brazil but I wasn't there, I support our troops in Afghanistan, but I am not there either. I don't understand this fixation with having to be at games to care about a club? And the club have hardly been doing much to attract walk ups, with help from the SMC as well.