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As the game has changed so much you can really only measure players against their contemporaries. Now the 50s may have been a golden age for wingers, or then again it may not. I wasn't born then. I have heard that Boston, Mick Sullivan and others were legends of the game, but was that because they were so much better than everyone else before or since, or conversely that the others were rather poorer than different eras? In the distant future I expect that Ryan Hall (given the international and finals record he has already accumulated) will be spoken of in highly complimentary terms and people will be saying Briscoe for example, had to compete for a spot with him!

I know that some international and other representative selections have been (in)famously strange at times but on the whole it is a useful, mostly independent, way of rating a player's ability and as such it needs serious consideration when considering our selections for Hull's best.

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Quote: hull2524 "Wow hard one this. Sully has to be one. J Harrison must have been a good one as well. D O'Hara maybe ?'"

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Quote: ccs "There was a bit of competition for international wingers when Watts was playing.
It used to be GB rather than England in those days, and Billy Boston springs to mind. More may follow.....'"


The 50's was a golden period for class wingers and for Great Britain/ England in Ashes matches. As well as Boston and Mick Sullivan, there was Frank Castle, Terry O'Grady and Ike Southward a fellow Cumbrian to Ivor. Also Lewis Jones played on the wing in some matches. International wingers also playing in England at that time included Bruce Ryan, Wilf Rosenburg, Brian Bevan, Tom Van Vollenhoven and Lionel Cooper. The latter 3 in particular were legends of the game.

As a side issue when Billy Batten played in his 10 matches for England in Ashes matches he played on the wing in all matches but 1. The one was played at the Boulevard where he played centre and his winger was Bill Stone. England lost in that game.

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ok i'm going to bring in billy stone into the nominations and drop gareth raynor. this leaves the nominations as

jack harrison
bruce ryan
billy stone
clive sullivan
ivor watts
dane o'hara

anyone want to change this before the vote is created?

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