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| Quote Easty="Easty"I think Bruce is entitled to his opinion and those that have actually read up on this case will certainly have some questions surrounding the case against Ched Evans.
The woman in question has apparently made a previous rape allegation that was proved to be false. She'd also tweeted before the trial that when she wins she wins big and that she will treat her and a friend to pink mini's and a holiday, She was also apparently too intoxicated to consent yet she managed to carry a pizza whilst opening double doors all in high heels. We also have two parties who had sex with the woman that night in that hotel room. One got a not guilty one a guilty. If she is too intoxicated to agree to sleep with one male then surely she's too intoxicated to sleep with both?'" Did the first guy say anything about whether there was an odd bottle. Who dobbed the good boy Ched in cos it was not the girl cos she was drunk, You males can try as much as you can but it was RAPE under English law. Get over it and let the scrote get on his life he is not the greatest Footballer in the world. 1st division of English Football give me a break.
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| Quote Basher="Basher"Did the first guy say anything about whether there was an odd bottle. Who dobbed the good boy Ched in cos it was not the girl cos she was drunk, You males can try as much as you can but it was RAPE under English law. Get over it and let the scrote get on his life he is not the greatest Footballer in the world. 1st division of English Football give me a break.'"
Apparently nobody made an allegation of rape.
This was taken of the website mentioned earlier.
Quote BasherQ6. If the complainant made no allegation of rape or indeed any sexual activity, why did the North Wales police launch a rape investigation?
A. The complainant initially reported to the police that she believed ‘her drink had been spiked’. It was only after informing the police that the complainant had stayed in a room in the Premier Inn that had been booked for two footballers, that the police escalated the enquiry to a rape enquiry. This was only 14 minutes after taking the call and without interviewing either the complainant or the suspects.
Toxicology reports proved that there was no trace of any date rape drug in her system only traces of cannabis and cocaine.
Q7. If there was no forensic evidence on the complainant or in the room and no complaint, how did both Clayton and Ched get charged with rape by the North Wales police?
A. When interviewed separately both Clayton and Ched acknowledged consensual sexual activity with the complainant – they told the truth. If they had
refused to comply and ‘no commented’ the questions, they could not have been charged. Their honesty incriminated them.'"
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| Quote Easty="Easty"Apparently nobody made an allegation of rape.
This was taken of the website mentioned earlier.
'" So 12 men a true find him guilty . We are ed as a nation over one Lower Rank Footballer. I worry #charlie
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"I don't paticularly care whether he's guilty or not, any person should be allowed to continue their career once they've served their sentence. The fact he's a footballer shouldn't come in to the equation.
However I do find it bizarre that, given the girls story they could find one party guilty and the other not guilty.'"
No one is preventing him continuing his career. No one apart from Ched Evans and his knuckle-dragging apologists that is.
It has taken him until today to show even a shred of contrition and that was issued begrudgingly. He hasn't asked for the support website to be taken down and his happy to sit back and allow his "supporters" to continue to vilify the REAL victim in this case. In case it passed you by, that victim IS NOT Ched Evans.
My advice to him would be to consider a career away from football. Can you imagine the reception he will receive from opposition supporters? I just hope that he is also receiving professional counselling.
He could always ply his trade abroad, were it not for the fact that as he still hasn't served his whole sentence, he is not allowed to travel abroad. He hasn't "done his time", he's only done half of it.
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| City are in danger of breaching the fair play cap. Budget isn't the word. Ched's about all they can afford, I reckon.
Plus his girlfriend Natasha is a good friend of Amy Bruce, of course, according to social media.
Evans Stevens. Unwelcome to Hull, munChed.
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| Don't agree with what he's said but I'd die fighting for his right to say it.
JE SUIS CHARLIE.
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| Quote Mike1970="Mike1970"1885, does that mean if your children went to a nursery and one of the staff got convicted of being a paedophile you'd be happy for them to resume looking after your children once they'd served their sentance?'"
This is where people are getting mixed up. A profession in which you hold a position of trust (doctor, nurse, teacher) is not comparible to being a footballer.
All the witch hunt mob will do is turn Evans in to the victim. There are people playing football that have killed before, where's the outcry about them? Ones even captaining his club.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"No one is preventing him continuing his career. No one apart from Ched Evans and his knuckle-dragging apologists that is.
It has taken him until today to show even a shred of contrition and that was issued begrudgingly. He hasn't asked for the support website to be taken down and his happy to sit back and allow his "supporters" to continue to vilify the REAL victim in this case. In case it passed you by, that victim IS NOT Ched Evans.
My advice to him would be to consider a career away from football. Can you imagine the reception he will receive from opposition supporters? I just hope that he is also receiving professional counselling.
He could always ply his trade abroad, were it not for the fact that as he still hasn't served his whole sentence, he is not allowed to travel abroad. He hasn't "done his time", he's only done half of it.'"
He was given legal advice to not speak. Why should he apologise for something he's adamant he hasn't done, would you?
He has completely distanced himself from those that have vilified the girl and apologised for the hurt caused by events that night.
He has a right, as does every other person to rehabilitation. Part of that is being allowed to resume his career. Making rehabilitation conditional is not a path we should go down, under any circumstances.
As I said, his guilt is not the issue for me, the very laws that convicted him also say he has a right to be rehabilitated.
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| Listening to bruces' comments I wonder if he had watched question time on Thursday night as one of the panelists made virtually the same comments
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| ...or maybe he reads [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11226209/Ched-Evans-Sorry-but-all-rapes-are-not-the-same.htmlThe Telegraph.[/url
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| 1865, please stop trying to be inflammatory. I was only responding to your sweeping statement that anyone has the right to resume their career.
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