Just base it on the fact, that in 2012 they got 21 points, in 2013 they got 26, this year they're likely to get around the same again but with a much better points difference. Remembering they lost their main playmaker last season, lost Blake Green the season before amongst others and most probably underspend considerably on their salary cap.

Too many apologists in this club

Well said standee, but dont alter your opinions for anyone, we are at yet another low ebb, it will be better, but it might have to get worse first!

This is refreshing to see you speaking like this. I agree that the opinions you show are ,well opinions, and you as well as everyone else are entitled to them. It was just the way in which you put them over on occasions. Due to my allegiance we will often clash but hopefully now always with respect.

Our league campaigns since 2007 have been consistently poor no matter who the coach or players are. Fans patience has slowly been erased each and every season by promises not kept and potential not reached. That's why now you are getting fans either losing all interest and abandoning the club, or diehard fans such as the original poster who have become overly negative and cynical. I think most people have reached this point which is why there are a lot of knee jerk reactions to individual games. A lot of fans believe that Radford is not the correct man for the job, myself included, but I hope like mad that he proves me wrong in the long term. If we only have one positive to take from the past few seasons, it's evident our youth structures and pathways are working and that we have a coach giving them every opportunity to replace the senior players who have underachieved in the past. We also have an owner who has invested heavily and is passionate as we are about the club. We do have some good players at this club, and some great ones coming through. I don't think we are as far away as it seems at the moment, we just have a few key areas in recruitment to address and need to show the door to some poor players as well as great servants to the club who unfortunately no longer cut the mustard to take us to the next level.