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| Quote ccs="ccs"Of course, nobody really knows if any of the above isn't actually happening - so let's assume the worst, as always.'"
So if Wigan deem it necessary to have a back room staff more than twice the size of FC's to look after 17 players that take the pitch against 17 of our players we should just think they that's Wigan we will be OK doing it our way.
Not being negative just asking questions, a team of young blokes made seasoned experienced professionals look slow, lacking in energy, lacking in motivation, lacking in skill and worse of all lacking in hunger to win on Friday. I know which coaching team I would want to train under.
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| Quote FCFaithful Stu="FCFaithful Stu"So if Wigan deem it necessary to have a back room staff more than twice the size of FC's to look after 17 players that take the pitch against 17 of our players we should just think they that's Wigan we will be OK doing it our way.
Not being negative just asking questions, a team of young blokes made seasoned experienced professionals look slow, lacking in energy, lacking in motivation, lacking in skill and worse of all lacking in hunger to win on Friday. I know which coaching team I would want to train under.'"
For balance Wigan also had Mcilorum, Smith and Green as three of their four 'spine' players. Any or all of those players would walk into our first team with their eyes shut as each of them is way better than the equivalent incumbent in our team.
This talk of sports science is interesting and despite not really knowing the actual facts about staffing levels at Hull I think there is definitely some ground that we can make up there. What worries me far more is the physical difference between Wigan's young players and ours. I haven't been to U19s this season as I can't justify the travel required, however I did go to the Fev friendly where many of our youngsters figured. The difference in physicality and fitness between what I saw from our youngsters then and what I saw on Friday from Wigan can be measured in light years.
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| Quote FCFaithful Stu="FCFaithful Stu"So if Wigan deem it necessary to have a back room staff more than twice the size of FC's to look after 17 players that take the pitch against 17 of our players we should just think they that's Wigan we will be OK doing it our way.
Not being negative just asking questions, a team of young blokes made seasoned experienced professionals look slow, lacking in energy, lacking in motivation, lacking in skill and worse of all lacking in hunger to win on Friday. I know which coaching team I would want to train under.'" All I'm saying is establishing staffing levels using the club's website is unlikely to give you an accurate comparison.
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| Quote Doc Brown="Doc Brown"I don't know what the answer is to these but agree that if it is the Radford scenario that it is misguided. With AP I'd be inclined to say that it was also a misguided thing rather than anything misleading. He has invested in the club and improved facilities. Maybe he feels that is enough or was advised by someone that there is no need for a large backroom staff. I don't think it's a case of him hoping that the fans don't notice. If that was the case would the club go to the bother of listing the coaching staff on the website?
The funny thing is that we probably wouldn't be having this discussion if things were going better than they are at the moment. But we're all feeling low about how the season is going so far and we're looking for answers on how things could improve. And we're starting to look beyond just questioning the players attitudes and their abilities or the quality of our coach.'"
The backroom staff on the website is correct.
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"For balance Wigan also had Mcilorum, Smith and Green as three of their four 'spine' players. Any or all of those players would walk into our first team with their eyes shut as each of them is way better than the equivalent incumbent in our team.
This talk of sports science is interesting and despite not really knowing the actual facts about staffing levels at Hull I think there is definitely some ground that we can make up there. What worries me far more is the physical difference between Wigan's young players and ours. I haven't been to U19s this season as I can't justify the travel required, however I did go to the Fev friendly where many of our youngsters figured. The difference in physicality and fitness between what I saw from our youngsters then and what I saw on Friday from Wigan can be measured in light years.'"
True those three are great players, I was thinking more about the energy and skill in general and the way they played rather than Wigan winning the game.
I agree the younger players are great examples of the way they have been coached and their attitude seems first class.
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| Quote ccs="ccs"All I'm saying is establishing staffing levels using the club's website is unlikely to give you an accurate comparison.'"
I understand that it could be an issue to do with some staff not being listed and FC might even prefer to bring in people as consultants that would obviously not be listed. But at least keep the staff info up to date. If the strength and conditioning coach is good at his job tell us about it. What qualifications has he got, who has he worked with, what are his specialties and how does he feel he can improve FC. He is new in his job after all. Professional pride would want your credentials visible, it just looks like we don't really care about the back room operations when it looks the way it does.
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| Quote weaver93="weaver93"The backroom staff on the website is correct.'" I'm sure you're right, but some positions won't necessarily appear - eg club doctor, and nutrition, say, may well be contracted out.
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| Quote ccs="ccs"I'm sure you're right, but some positions won't necessarily appear - eg club doctor, and nutrition, say, may well be contracted out.'"
Again true, but things like club doctors appear on the Wigan site.
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| Quote ccs="ccs"I'm sure you're right, but some positions won't necessarily appear - eg club doctor, and nutrition, say, may well be contracted out.'"
we list the club chaplain ffs, do you think hes full time just for Hull FC ha
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| Quote Tinkerman23="Tinkerman23"we list the club chaplain ffs, do you think hes full time just for Hull FC ha'"
So are you suggesting that they shouldn't include the Club Chaplain? ha
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| Quote ccs="ccs"So are you suggesting that they shouldn't include the Club Chaplain? ha'"
No, just saying, if they list the club chaplain, why not list doctors etc, I think its pretty obvious we don't have in place the same backroom staff as Wigan Leeds etc, no where near.
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