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| Personally more concerned with how this is going too affect youth development.
With so much at stake now are teams going to be willing to give youngsters a chance.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."It could happen, unlikely though as SL teams will be [uFT playing against part time clubs[/u. It could happen that a club is relegated two divisions in one year, if they finished below 8th in SL then in the bottom 2 in division 2 when the leagues break up.
One good thing is more games, guaranteed to get 30 league games a season. Not convinced about the whole thing though.'"
The cap in the second tier will be £900k. With improved funding at the top end of that division (which I fear will unbalance it, but still), possibly renewed hope and greater incentive for 'investment', the aim will be for [isome[/i teams in that division to be full-time.
This is a more re-distributive system than we've had previously. Top tier clubs won't be better off, [udirectly[/u as a result of cutting to 12, as they would have been if we'd gone back to the pre-licensing system (the RFL will say this structure aims to bring in more revenue from sponsors and broadcasters, of course). On the other hand, relegation doesn't have to be quite such a dislocation, replacing a whole full-time squad completely with a part-time one from one season to the next.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"In the promotion-relegation series, the inherent advantages of those coming from the the top 12 means that 4 home games for the Championship teams seems an appropriate way to balance things out slightly.'" I don't disagree with the theory of balancing things out, but I think in practice, a team might be relegated because the fixture list was heavily stacked against them.
You only need to finish 5th to get relegated.
There is also the probability that SL teams destined for relegation will prepare early for stage 2, with teams in mid-table having to battle to the bitter end.
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| Quote jacko1="jacko1"Personally more concerned with how this is going too affect youth development.
With so much at stake now are teams going to be willing to give youngsters a chance.'"
But what do you do, try to create a system where more games matter less?
SL is the pinnacle of club RL here. Youth development should take place first and foremost in academies, and then youngsters should earn their chance and should be picked because it gives their team the best chance of winning.
There's not a lack of opportunities, more of sufficient players properly prepared and equipped to step into SL. There'll be some strong salary cap incentives in place, that the wealthier clubs can take advantage of, also.
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| Quote ccs="ccs"I don't disagree with the theory of balancing things out, but I think in practice, a team might be relegated because the fixture list was heavily stacked against them.
[uYou only need to finish 5th to get relegated.[/u
There is also the probability that SL teams destined for relegation will prepare early for stage 2, with teams in mid-table having to battle to the bitter end.'"
The policy review document suggests a one-off 'final' game between 4th and 5th, so there's an 'out'. On the other hand you could come in 4th and lose that and go down due to a bad 80 minutes. And finishing not better than 9th of 12 in the regular season and being mediocre even against weaker opposition.
There has to be an element of jeopardy in any P&R system, and at least with this with this there's a path back without necessarily losing everything. I'm not a huge fan of this system, by any means, but there does seem to be an almost exclusive focus on its drawbacks.
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| After reading a few threads on other teams board the statement below says it all for me
A look at the results of SL vs Championship Challenge Cup games would suggest that the four who finish in the bottom of SL are going to be the top four in the middle tier playoffs.
Playing to a different salary cap, different overseas player rules, it's hardly a fair fight.
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| Any word on whether the Championship in 2015 will scrap the bonus points system or whether this system will be introduced for all league games?
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| Apparently the vote was 7 in favour of the new structure with 6 against, with Catalan abstaining.Against were:
Wigan
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Salford god knows if it's true though tbf
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Quote Legends and Icons="Legends and Icons"Apparently the vote was 7 in favour of the new structure with 6 against, with Catalan abstaining.Against were:
Wigan
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Hull FC
Hull KR
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Salford god knows if it's true though tbf'"
Not according to the mail today.
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html
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Quote Legends and Icons="Legends and Icons"Apparently the vote was 7 in favour of the new structure with 6 against, with Catalan abstaining.Against were:
Wigan
Wire
Hull FC
Hull KR
Hudds
Salford god knows if it's true though tbf'"
Not according to the mail today.
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html
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Does it say hull voted yes to it anywhere ?
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Does it say hull voted yes to it anywhere ?
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Doesnt say an overall majority, just says the majority of sl clubs voted for it
7 is a bigger majority than 6 lol
Could be an expensive summer for some, another trip to catalan, mini season ticket/pass, possibility of cc cup semi final and final games
Fans again not considered and ignored
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Doesnt say an overall majority, just says the majority of sl clubs voted for it
7 is a bigger majority than 6 lol
Could be an expensive summer for some, another trip to catalan, mini season ticket/pass, possibility of cc cup semi final and final games
Fans again not considered and ignored
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