1 - Try again, I can provide examples of why Horne's season so far has only been mediocre with a recent peak of form. Do I really have to go through a game-by-game analysis showing the games previously at the start of this season where he's shown no spark or creativity at all or made mistakes? I expect more from a halfback than this, so should every other Hull fan. Therefore he shouldn't be in your top 3. Simple.

2 - When I say "Horne hasn't been excellent for the full year", I mean the year so far. Woops.

3 - Yes I can. When the end of the year comes around. It will show that Horne's season was mediocre at the start, a peak in form, and then drops back to being mediocre again while we get knocked out of the play-offs by a team that won't regard as highly a player's performances such as Horne's as you do. Understand now? Good.

4 - Trivial and pathetic contribution.

Well, give me a reason to believe his season so far has been anything other than mediocre with only a recent peak of form.

You can't, because it hasn't.

What you said previously can just be deduced to "he's been good", which is mere opinion as I said.

I'm sure this must be some kind of elaborate joke that I'm not getting.

The only elaborate joke is the fickle attitude that a lot of sports fans seem to have.

Not as many people at all (except for the fans who favour Horne over other players because he's local) were saying Horne has been the best player so far 4/5 weeks/rounds ago. So why now? Even though he's found some form, he still performed to his mediocre level for the majority of the years. The things that he's now doing in games is what you should demand from your halfback for the majority of the year as a bare minimum. Therefore, he should be nowhere near the top 3 players so far.

What about this do people not understand?

You have no rugby knowledge at all, like to respect people's opinions but he's miles ahead of anyone in our team, fellow players will tell you, the coaches will tell you n most fans will. Coaching staff see worthy of a new deal, every fan on here can see it, his stats speak for themselves even in a hard to excel team at times this yr but you think it's bias? Even though most on here were openly critical of him prior to season and have eaten humble pie!

Just out of interest who would you say have been our top 3 players so far this season?

That can be the only explanation. I'm done now, there's little point in arguing with idiots.

Ad hominem



Nobody's eating humble pie because Horne's decided to put in performances that a proper halfback would consider to be a bare minimum for the past 4 games. He's a halfback, he's meant to assist tries, but should be doing this every game, not just for the last few.

Who's being fickle?


The stuff about him only being popular because he's local is undiluted bollox trotted out by folk with no other argument. Horne's had plenty of critics over recent seasons. He's getting praise now because he's playing well now. What part of that do you fail to understand?

And he's been getting praise pretty much from the first game he played. The reason why he's 'only just now' being mentioned as being in our top 3 players so far this season is because this is the first time anyone's asked the question.

You clearly have an agenda where Horne is concerned. Or you're trolling. Either way it's making you look daft.

Did you ring 5Live last night suggesting City hire Terry Venables for £5 million for a week's work?

These 2 instances are biggest loads of idiotic tripe I've ever heard/read in my life, seems too coincidental that they'd happen less than a day apart from different people.

This is the pinnacle of daftness in a thread full of daft posts by your good self.

He's only played well for the last 4 games? Really? Deary me.



I think you've given away the real reason behind your posts though. You were obviously one of those who wrote him off and you're simply not man enough to admit you might have been wrong. Poor show.