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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."So every hull fan on here, must be over 20 had Horne is their top three, except you, and you think they must re-evaluate their top three?
Not been a massive horne fan for the last couple of years, but this year he has been excellent, making breaks, setting up try's and even an improved kicking game.
You are making your self look a bit stupid.'"
I don't think 20 Hull fans is an adequate sample size, really. Evidently so, since nobody out of these 20 can reason with me how Horne has allegedly "carried us for the full year" without resorting to just mere opinion.
Horne hasn't been excellent for the full year. He's found a slight peak of form, that's it.
Although it's irrelevant to the topic of this thread, I will be proven right given the end of the year. I'm not hoping for this, it's just fact.
You need to follow my argument properly. Try to actually reason why I may be wrong other than using the 'wisdom of the crowd' argument to back up your claim.
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| Can you not read, in my last post I mentioned why he had been excellent.
This thread is called half way through top 3 players, so even if Horne has a poor 2nd Hal of the season, he has still been one of our top three players at this point, so you won't be proven wrong at all.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."This thread is called half way through top 3 players, so even if Horne has a poor 2nd Hal of the season, he has still been one of our top three players at this point, so you won't be proven wrong at all.'"
A concept which our troll is deliberately ignoring.
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| It makes me laugh, he claims that 20 people isn't enough to form an opinion, but his one man campaign is good enough to suggest Horne hasn't been a top player for us this year.
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| Quote BraddersFC="BraddersFC"I don't think 20 Hull fans is an adequate sample size, really. Evidently so, since nobody out of these 20 can reason with me how Horne has allegedly "carried us for the full year" without resorting to just mere opinion.'"
Like your opinion that, despite Horne being near to the top of the try assists charts and whatnot, he's not having a very good season?
Quote BraddersFC="BraddersFC"Horne hasn't been excellent for the full year. '"
That's why this thread is about the first half of the year.
Quote BraddersFC="BraddersFC"Although it's irrelevant to the topic of this thread, I will be proven right given the end of the year. I'm not hoping for this, it's just fact.'"
You cannot be proven right at the end of the year when we're talking only about the first half of the season. Logic, innit? Also, your opinion about how Horne will play for the second half of the season is just about as far from 'fact' as it's possible to be.
Quote BraddersFC="BraddersFC"You need to follow my argument properly. Try to actually reason why I may be wrong other than using the 'wisdom of the crowd' argument to back up your claim.'"
Your argument is a meandering stroll down dog lane.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"1 - Like your opinion that, despite Horne being near to the top of the try assists charts and whatnot, he's not having a very good season?
2 - That's why this thread is about the first half of the year.
3 - You cannot be proven right at the end of the year when we're talking only about the first half of the season. Logic, innit? Also, your opinion about how Horne will play for the second half of the season is just about as far from 'fact' as it's possible to be.
4 - Your argument is a meandering stroll down dog lane.'"
1 - Try again, I can provide examples of why Horne's season so far has only been mediocre with a recent peak of form. Do I really have to go through a game-by-game analysis showing the games previously at the start of this season where he's shown no spark or creativity at all or made mistakes? I expect more from a halfback than this, so should every other Hull fan. Therefore he shouldn't be in your top 3. Simple.
2 - When I say "Horne hasn't been excellent for the full year", I mean the year so far. Woops.
3 - Yes I can. When the end of the year comes around. It will show that Horne's season was mediocre at the start, a peak in form, and then drops back to being mediocre again while we get knocked out of the play-offs by a team that won't regard as highly a player's performances such as Horne's as you do. Understand now? Good.
4 - Trivial and pathetic contribution.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."It makes me laugh, he claims that 20 people isn't enough to form an opinion, but his one man campaign is good enough to suggest Horne hasn't been a top player for us this year.'"
Well, give me a reason to believe his season so far has been anything other than mediocre with only a recent peak of form.
You can't, because it hasn't.
What you said previously can just be deduced to "he's been good", which is mere opinion as I said.
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| I'm sure this must be some kind of elaborate joke that I'm not getting.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"I'm sure this must be some kind of elaborate joke that I'm not getting.'"
The only elaborate joke is the fickle attitude that a lot of sports fans seem to have.
Not as many people at all (except for the fans who favour Horne over other players because he's local) were saying Horne has been the best player so far 4/5 weeks/rounds ago. So why now? Even though he's found some form, he still performed to his mediocre level for the majority of the years. The things that he's now doing in games is what you should demand from your halfback for the majority of the year as a bare minimum. Therefore, he should be nowhere near the top 3 players so far.
What about this do people not understand?
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| Quote BraddersFC="BraddersFC"Well, give me a reason to believe his season so far has been anything other than mediocre with only a recent peak of form.
You can't, because it hasn't.
What you said previously can just be deduced to "he's been good", which is mere opinion as I said.'"
You have no rugby knowledge at all, like to respect people's opinions but he's miles ahead of anyone in our team, fellow players will tell you, the coaches will tell you n most fans will. Coaching staff see worthy of a new deal, every fan on here can see it, his stats speak for themselves even in a hard to excel team at times this yr but you think it's bias? Even though most on here were openly critical of him prior to season and have eaten humble pie!
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| Quote BraddersFC="BraddersFC"The only elaborate joke is the fickle attitude that a lot of sports fans seem to have.
Not as many people at all (except for the fans who favour Horne over other players because he's local) were saying Horne has been the best player so far 4/5 weeks/rounds ago. So why now? Even though he's found some form, he still performed to his mediocre level for the majority of the year. Therefore, he should be nowhere near the top 3 players so far.
What about this do people not understand?'"
Just out of interest who would you say have been our top 3 players so far this season?
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