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| I need to have a say.
What Starbucks did was technically within the letter of the (tax) laws but Joe public saw it as being unethical and pressure of the public forced a change. Whilst it may be within the law for SMC to charge for hanging photos this does not make it right. Likewise the public can force a change of mind.
With City no doubt running at a loss then it would make sense to transfer those losses onto an associated business to reduce taxation / council dividends and possibly have those losses covered in part by another unconnected party - raising whatever charges are possible be it season ticket handling to hanging photos. A number of staff costs and overheads could be “reappraised” to achieve this. So what if city are paying for the privilege of hanging their photo’s up – the payments being made will only be covering losses which in all likelihood originated from their football operations. The SMC’s financial performance over the past 2 years v the first 8 years does seem to suggest this.
Notwithstanding the numerous accounting avenues that could be at play here the underlying issue is the disrespect to a local sporting icon. Everyone has seen the creeping takeover of the stadium and the tiger adorned reception for some time but the emotional fight is about justice and respect for Johnny. I never saw him play, much too young  , but there is a degree of aura about the man that cannot be ignored and from his glittering playing career to ambassadorial role for the city and sport. It should be the SMC paying JW for the privilege to be associated with the great man not the other way round!
When the Allams first bought Hull City an elderly man muttered one word to me – “Ruscadors”.
I won’t put another penny into the Allams coffers – be it football, refreshment stands, or squash!
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| Quote City1904="City1904"The Allam's can't just pocket the income of the SMC, and why would the Allams put extra expenses on to Hull City. If you don't know football, it is undergoing a financial review basically where clubs can't spend anymore than what they get in, so why would they add expenses, when our expenses are far to high. We need to cut costs, so this is only adding to our costs if anything. So clearly that issue isn't an issue. So in other words we are cutting off our nose to spite our face admittedly, but to say its to make the Allams a profit is wrong as its making it harder for them at Hull City as they need to find more income, [uwhich can't come from the Allams own back pockets.[/u
Someone prove that wrong.'"
No, But It Can Come From The SMC.. Wonder If That's Why It's Running At A Loss
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| can we not boycott the food stands and hit them were it hurts, in the pocket.
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| Does hitting Allam in the pocket really hurt though?
I mean, what's a few burgers to him?
This whole thing is obviously some kind of petty issue between Allam and Pearson but it seems atm that Pearson has more than met his match.
With the clout Allam has compared to Pearson, it looks a bit like he could be turning up to a gunfight holding a stick.
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| Quote City1904="City1904"Because if they sold it someone could do what they are currently doing to you, to us. I think that would pretty embarrasing.
Why would they sell a club that was losing millions before they came in and saved it, don't get that. I tried to correct your wrong ways, unfortunately you aren't clever enough to understand them so i bid you farewell.'"
In a sugar coated ideal world you would be Mr Allams Chief Negotiator. You should at least give it serious thought.... and just give him a bell.
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| I guess your right but the possibility of losing around 1-2k every 2 weeks would mean the balance sheets would need "Adjusting" even more, then if there was ever a audit it would bite him on his tutankhamun.
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| John Meehan @MeehanMedia (former Mail editor)
Powerful interview in #HullDailyMail with #HullFC legend Johnny #Whiteley on the KC Stadium pictures row. Calls it a slur on Hull FC.
Johnny Whiteley in #HullDailyMail: 'It's left a sour taste .. removing these pictures is like saying 'we don't want you'.' #HullFC #hcafc
Johnny #Whiteley in #HullDailyMail: 'I'm not going to beg them to put those photos back .. they will find out how the people feel'. #HullFC
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| wow, it's been a hectic 12 hours, a few comments.
HUGE thanks to Phill, lots of noise in council chambers yesterday, interesting to see what the press release says
MASSIVE thanks to everyone who called Sports Talk (I didn't get chance to listen as had appointments)
ENORMOUS thanks to the HDM for what they're running today, they still want the "20 Questions about the SMC", I'll start a thread and see if we can get it stickied.
A now, a request, WE MUST NOT LET THIS DIE DOWN, it's easy to get all shouty at the start of something like this, but it often fizzles out, and that is what the Allams are counting on. I don't expect FC to comment as it's comercially sensitive for them and we don't know what other clauses are in the lease agreement about speaking up on such things, but I imagine what we're doing is being watched and appreciated.
KEEP UP THE PRESSURE, KEEP SENDING EMAILS, if you haven't done anything yet then please, PLEASE send even the briefest of emails to the Council, they need to understand the depth and spread of feeling. Most DECENT City and KR supporters are behind us, especially about the stupidity of having a suite named after a guy but with no images of him.
myuncleharry (or whatever your new username is) you seem to have no appreciation for the history of sport in Hull, Barmby and Windass achieved NOTHING compared to Johnny Whitely, Barmby is, I agree, a great guy and a great ambassador for the City, Windass, just a bloke who kicked a bag of wind. Maybe you should read the citation on the Jack Harrison memorial next time you go to fellate the Allams, sorry, I meant "support Hull City", just in case Mr Allam decides that has to go, then you can tell us all how you "have no idea who this whathis name Harrison guy is".
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| Quote EL CAMO="EL CAMO"This whole thing is obviously some kind of petty issue between Allam and Pearson but it seems atm that Pearson has more than met his match.'"
With Allam as Dr Evil. "I can defeat you Mr Pearson, by taking these pictures down!"
You say AP has taken a stick to a gunfight. I say Allam is involving himself in a childish playground argument. Hopefully when teacher calls him back in for class, Allam will start behaving.
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| SMC should never have been run by an interested party.
Will the council have the guts to remove Alllam and SMC as the management company, what are people's views on how close actions like these strain the brief of the SMC to the limit and therefore allow the council to act.
Could the council use this situation to show they are no longer willing to be undermined by a man who's sole aim is personal gain at any cost.
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| Quote FCFaithful Stu="FCFaithful Stu"SMC should never have been run by an interested party.
Will the council have the guts to remove Alllam and SMC as the management company, what are people's views on how close actions like these strain the brief of the SMC to the limit and therefore allow the council to act.
Could the council use this situation to show they are no longer willing to be undermined by a man who's sole aim is personal gain at any cost.'"
I don't think the Council can remove the Allams from the SMC, or the SMC from the stadium.
It's the last legacy of the Hetherington regeime for not getting involved at the outset, I bet "she's" wetting herself over all this.
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