It sounds like AP has overstated the quality overall we're bringing in, but I don't believe this was deliberate deception, more like over-confidence in a market he's still learning about. We tried to get Chase. A lot. That's a good thing, surely?
Look what Gentle's achieved in the short term market. Binned off O'Carroll and Ellis to get in Watts, Pitts, McGoldrick, Russell, Foster. In a competition where the top club are ushering in Green and Smith as the best SL half back pairing, not sure there's too much for us at FC to be mithering about.'"

My interpretation was - and still is - that we intended to sign two new half backs and we had a shortlist of 4 targets. Holdsworth was one of them. Chase another. No idea who the other two are, but I'm not going to make up a list of names out of thin air and then declare myself disappointed if we don't sign them.

It's a 3-4 year plan to get us to the top. We've done better than expected in year 1 already. The market isn't burgeoning with top quality halves and if Chase doesn't happen it's not for the want of trying. Time for some to get a grip and realise what Pearson has done for the club already instead of carping about the intricacies of recruitment. Things wont always go entirely to plan and some need to learn to live with that. The club is going forward and improving.

Don't disagree at all. But some of AP's quotes are naive, when he says things like 'we all know who the top 6's & 7's are and we will sign two of them' is it any wonder people expect the Dureau, Brough, Chase and Dobsons of this world?

Finally, Some common sense.

Where are you lot getting all these stories about the Chase deal being dead?!

As for Saint Adam, I don't think I expected half as much progress as we have already made! It's a good time to be a part of the Faithful!

Manu plays virtually every minute of every game and is IMO a better player than ellis,I feel this is a loss for hull not a gain.!!

Manu plays virtually every minute of every game and is IMO a better player than ellis,I feel this is a loss for hull not a gain.!!

I've said it previously, but Ellis has and does play at a level far greater than Manu ever has.

Ok theoretically lets say we don't sign Chase but we will of allocated £xxxx (silly money) as his monthly/yearly wages... Where is that going if we stick with Seymour.

AP has promised greatness and I expect he will deliver, I'm not happy saying oh well at least we were in for him and we are better than expected etc.

I'm over the moon with AP, PG etc, I'm happy with the visions and direction of the club, I'm happy with the signings so far, but I as a fan, someone with my own opinions and if I am not happy about something I have every right to write it on this forum, just the same as everyone else including the "AP and PG can not do anything wrong" squad!

In case anyone forgets, we now have TWO quality half-backs. Holdsworth and McGoldrick. Before, we had Horne (Who is never in a million years a halfback) and Seymour who really is out of his depth. We also have Heremaia who has put in some good stints in that position too, Throw Westy in plus Nicklas as a backup and we're actually quite well off for cover!

We can afford a young, green NRL junior as a project, surely, or is everyone still captivated by Dureau, Brough and Chase who will not be at FC for the forseeable?

As Mrs B has stated, Wigan have Green and Matty Smith as halfbacks next year. Hardly a fookin' dream-team pairing, is it!