Fully agree. You can probably count on one hand how many good games he has had for us over his stay. Stange how must of them happened around March/April this year when someone was looking for a new contract.

Give him a year at saints. Be amazed if they ain't got better coming through their ranks. He s extremely average.

Maybe very good then. He has plenty of pace, a decent step and loads of upper body strength. He was making far more yards than Yeaman was at the weekend.

I'll go with very good too. This is the issue, can he be coached? If so and Brown can sort him out they have a good centre if not they have a liability in defence. Either way I am not bothered to see him go but just hope Arundel is the right replacement.

Agreed, and I currently suspect he can't be coached. I think McManus' comment about his defence is laughable, though.

With Arundel, my biggest concern now is his shoulder. If he fully recovers I think he has the ability to be better than Turner, I'm just unsure now whether it's getting worrying that he's been out so long or simply that they're not rushing him back because he's leaving anyway and good for him to have the extra time.

Still think he will turn out to be a decent centre, he has definatley dropped off since Easter time but had a good match at the weekend.

Hopefully Arundel and Crooks will turn out to be better players for us.

turner on his day is good, but can be inconsistant,mixed thoughts on him going

That's the question, are there complications with his shoulder or are they leaving him out as he is leaving?

With the right coaching and work on his defence he'll do well at Saints. Brown has developed some decent backs in the same mould at Hudds and could do it with Turner. Only Turner and Briscoe currently capable of going the length of the field in Hull's team. I don't know enough about Arundel to comment either way about whether he's better than Turner or not - I hope he is. If Turner didn't want to stay then fair play on your way Jordan but I hope we find more pace in our outside backs to compensate.

And Sharp.

I think Turner started off under the new regime very well had an excellent game at Saints and against HKR but since rumours started circulating about him possibly going his form has certainly tailed off. Had he still been playing as he was before mid April I would have been disappointed to see him leave but taking into account his form since I can't say that he will be as big a loss as I first thought.

He does seem to have the tools to make it into a very good player but his application at times seems questionable.