We've won knack all over the years with players we have on the current roster who some seem to deem class or better which everyone can have their opinion on, I'm all for the change it may take 2 years but after watching the dross which has been served up over the last 4-5 and it becoming a chore to go to games I'm willing to lose a few if they will fit into a winning system.

Our reluctance to use our youth over the years during a previous regime has knocked us back as it is resulting in us paying over the odds on oversees players and average squad players who's job could of been done by our youth if given a chance.

We need a better balance of players across the board to add strength and competition for places to some of those who seem to think its a given they should be in the team.

There is no way we can utilise the wire cash cow method and i never expected us to as every man a dog knows its bent and there's no way the RFL will have the balls to look into it.

I want us to be up there competing fairly and squarely which i think Gentle et al can bring but we are going to have to wait a few years to see it flourish in my opinion.

I'm sorry but can you at least try to cheer up? At least I look on the positive side of things and have faith in what the team I support will deliver in the future. I said it'll sound stupid to some people but if he where to come, he'd be coming to a team with a number of faces he is familiar with, and with a coach and chairman who look to be doing most things right at the moment, who are looking to build a title winning squad.

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Horne has never been the same since his injury/diabetes, and it was a ridiculous decision to give him a new 2 year deal. His performance against Saints was the worst I've ever seen him play and it was sad to see.

Of the other regular starters who aren't good enough:

Sharp: Has improved, but is still poor/average. He is not particularly strong or quick and his positioning is awful. The only positive is his good effort and work-rate.

Turner: Great with ball in hand, but awful in defence. If he was 18/19 I could live with that and hope that he improves, but he's 23 and I feel this is as good as he is going to get.

Westerman: Big transfer fee and a lot of hype, but does absolutely nothing in my eyes. Penalty machine and looks un-fit.

We also obviously lack a proper full-back, so that is (IMO of course) 5 out of a starting 13 positions that we aren't good enough in.

I'd also add that due to injuries and lack of squad cover, we are playing Manu, Lynch and Houghton for too long each week and this is limiting their impact.

I dont buy into this he's not good enough for us because he cant get in there team ie watts , pitts . There is cases all over the s.l were players have left one club and become better players ie carvel could get in the leeds 13 , left and went on to be an international , danny tickle , craig hall , josh hodgeson are to name but a few . I bet you all could think of a lot more cases

The great point that various people have made is that we don't need every name to be directly replaced a player who will immediately be better then their predecessor at the club. Gentle has said on numerous occasions that we need to build the squad and the youth of the sport is the future. The likes of Pitts (who I think has had a very promising start at the club), Arundel, Crookes, Watts, along with extensions to Kent and Bowden is a great step in the right direction for us.

In Gentle We Trust.

This year is the start of our re building the mighty. Wigan did it after almost getting relegated in 06. We have the board and back room to hopefully do it. They seem to have a clear vision I.e. youth and the style of rugby required so in AP we trust...fingers crossed.lol.