They put their reputation before salary !

Are you related to Cheeky Charlie by any chance because the shiite you post is very similar!

And some dobbins fans will actually believe that tripe

Brett Finch
Thomas Leuluai
Jeff Lima
Brett Hodgson
Adrian Morley
Clint Greenshields
Setaimata Sa
Lopini Paea

How many of those are likely to be replaced with better players? The point I think people are still not getting is that ALL TEAMS in SL look like losing significant players, and ALL of them are going to find it hard to replace them in the current player market. I don't honestly see any decent team at this stage looking like they have an even stronger squad for next year, Manu to Saints is about the best signing made so far but IMO Saints need front rowers more than backrowers. This idea that we are going to be left massively behind is strange with plenty of recruitment left IMO. We have 2 exceptions, but most of our departures are about rooting out the crap. A few good replacements and we could very realistically make ground.

The thing is all of those teams are starting from a much better position than us. We can't afford to get any worse

But hand in hand with them starting from a better position is that the players they are losing are arguably better than ours. We still have only 2 losses that matter. I'm not convinced that overall we will get worse, but even if we do a little, I think that most other teams will see more of a decline than us.

It's amazing, but if we sign just one very good prop suddenly our squad for next year looks a hell of a lot rosier. I'm going to wait and see who we actually get in at prop before taking a few names from text messages and internet message boards as gospel and chucking the towel in.

i have faith in the new regime at fc, BUT since we signed ellis, as ive stated before weve currently signed, PITTS who couldnt get in leeds first team, ARUNDEL who is currently injured so the jury's out on him as i havent seen enough, and thats it...
when pearson took over, i was under the impression we would be signing top players ala warrington, but after the who-ha sorrounding the ellis signing(top signing i mite add) we have been "linked" in my opinion to average replacements for the players we are set to lose...
never in a million years is elima better than manu,watts better than o'meley(yet) we needed quality to add to the quality we had, unfortunatly were losing at least one top player, maybe more with the tickle rumour gathering pace, i recon we will have to take at least a step backwards to go forwards next year,

We've won knack all over the years with players we have on the current roster who some seem to deem class or better which everyone can have their opinion on, I'm all for the change it may take 2 years but after watching the dross which has been served up over the last 4-5 and it becoming a chore to go to games I'm willing to lose a few if they will fit into a winning system.

Our reluctance to use our youth over the years during a previous regime has knocked us back as it is resulting in us paying over the odds on oversees players and average squad players who's job could of been done by our youth if given a chance.

We need a better balance of players across the board to add strength and competition for places to some of those who seem to think its a given they should be in the team.

There is no way we can utilise the wire cash cow method and i never expected us to as every man a dog knows its bent and there's no way the RFL will have the balls to look into it.

I want us to be up there competing fairly and squarely which i think Gentle et al can bring but we are going to have to wait a few years to see it flourish in my opinion.

if thst the case, whos been holding us back in the current squad??
i'll go first, HORNE, miles past his best, passenger at times, but will be a starter when fit, wether at 1 or 6 next year....should have gone a year or so ago for me

I know we've had a rough couple of years, but why is everyone so pessimistic all the time?! We've only got ONE player officially leaving, the rest are all just rumoured and that ONE player (as good as he is) is being replaced by someone regarded as one of the best forwards in the world!

I trust in what Gentle says because he has so far done most things that we all wanted (for example; bringing players in from the 20's - Crooks, Bowden, Nicklas, Green, Kent). I can see us making atleast one more big signing (I know this sounds really optimistic and kinda stupid to some people, but I see Benji Marshall coming) and the fact we've signed another player who is highly rated and in the England Knights squad, I feel really optimistic about the coming years!

dear me........w it will be a cold day in hell before he ends up in some north engalnd backwater.....