I dont agree, I competed in 200m and 400m to international standard up to U18 level and with some proper coaching and traning he would make massive improvements, even if his overall speed didnt improve but his acceleration to getting to his top speed was improved this would make him much faster over the first 10-15 yards which would make a lot of difference to how many clean breaks he makes - Darren Campbell for example offers this to lots of sports clubs.

I also dont agree that his pace is fine for a centre, I think the likes of Atkins and Watkins in this country show that there is no substitute for pace and make the difference between a club standard player and international standard.

But hey ho as I said before he is an exciting prospect and I'm looking forward to watching him develop

Disagree Dave. He has average pace. Some on this forum have mocked Shenton whilst at StS but he when through our defence like a knife in butter went 30 yards without a hand on him then set the try scorer on his way.

Ask yourself this, when was that last time a Hull FC centre did anything like that?

Crooks will end up another frustrated second rower in the Yeaman mould.

Saints away.. Turner.

Didn't Crooks do that against Leeds to put Briscoe in ? Also as stated Turner ran around the outside of Shenton 10m from his own line and Shenton spent the next 90m trying and failing to catch him.

Let's have a bit of perspective. Ben Crooks is 18 and has only played 5 proper matches for us(I'm discounting frendlies). He's shown a lot of promise in these games and hasn't looked too bad. Many of his problems (such as a high amount of missed tackles) will most likely be rectified with experience and him maturing.

He may not be the quickest player we have but he isn't slow either. And pace isn't everything - if it was we would be seeing Dwayne Chambers in SL but in he couldn't make it at u20s level.

Despite this, we now have some people on here slagging the kid off and making out as if he'll be a failure. Give the kid a chance. Some people on this board go way ott.

Turner - length of field try vs Saints
Turner - length of field try vs KR
Crooks - vs Leeds (Briscoe scored)

There'll have been more because I haven't been to every game this season.