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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Not so, a pass is demed forward in relation to the player making the pass and not the flight of the ball and please don't even mention Stevo's (non)momentum rule.
A decision can be made on offside simply because the field and players' feet are on the same plane, something that doesn't happen with the flight of a ball in motion. The only reason that technologies like "Hawkeye" can be used in sports like cricket, tennis and potentially soccer is because the "targets" (goal, wicket or tramline) are a constant and fixed entity. I suppose there might be a case made for such decision to be considered when games are in 3D but would still doubt we have the technology available to ensure little better than the lottery that currently exists.
It was a terrible decision, I have never defended it and nor would I ever attempt to but the available technologies we currently enjoy would bring little, if any benefit for the cost involved. It was a bad decision that is ultimately down to Ganson and Ganson alone, it's not something he can hide from and nor should either he or Stuart Cummings. As I said before, I don't think it will go unquestioned and would expect serious answers to those questions. One reason the Oz refs make the phone call that Gentle spoke of, is to draw a line under the incident and then everyone can move on without fear of future repercussions or any subliminal attempt to "even things up"'"
Agree offside is completely different to the balls kinetic energy when passed from an advancing attacker however the technology would not be that complicated. The same kind of maths plonks the team logos on the pitch as if the were painted there.
If you track the balls speed forward for the few seconds before the pass then track the catch distance over the time lapsed it's basic maths to tell if it has travelled faster than when carried.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Not so, a pass is demed forward in relation to the player making the pass and not the flight of the ball and please don't even mention Stevo's (non)momentum rule.
A decision can be made on offside simply because the field and players' feet are on the same plane, something that doesn't happen with the flight of a ball in motion. The only reason that technologies like "Hawkeye" can be used in sports like cricket, tennis and potentially soccer is because the "targets" (goal, wicket or tramline) are a constant and fixed entity. I suppose there might be a case made for such decision to be considered when games are in 3D but would still doubt we have the technology available to ensure little better than the lottery that currently exists.
It was a terrible decision, I have never defended it and nor would I ever attempt to [ubut the available technologies we currently enjoy would bring little[/u, if any benefit for the cost involved. It was a bad decision that is ultimately down to Ganson and Ganson alone, it's not something he can hide from and nor should either he or Stuart Cummings. As I said before, I don't think it will go unquestioned and would expect serious answers to those questions. One reason the Oz refs make the phone call that Gentle spoke of, is to draw a line under the incident and then everyone can move on without fear of future repercussions or any subliminal attempt to "even things up"'"
I would agree most of the time, but there are occassions when even TV is adequate to pick up a forward pass. Why would it be a problem to ask the video ref to have a look. If he can't tell then fair enough, the decision remains with on field officials. The point is that we all want to eradicate, as far is possible, the obviously wrong decisions from the game. The fifty fity calls we hope will even themselves out over the season and are part of the game.
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| Quote FC Wembley 08="FC Wembley 08"Did Blake Green even play??'"
Yeah got a 40/20 how many did hull kick 
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| not bitter , regardless of the blantant forward pass hull still should have defended that lead, but it does stick in the gullitt when decisions like that go against you,
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Not so, a pass is demed forward in relation to the player making the pass and not the flight of the ball and please don't even mention Stevo's (non)momentum rule.'"
I [ithink[/i (but obviously don't know because it's someone else) that the point MMJ is making is if it is a case like last night where the receiving player actually catches the ball in front of where the passing player is [iat the time the ball is caught[/i, not where he passed the ball from. The only way that could ever not be a forward pass is if the passing player, after throwing the ball, then either stops stone dead from running, or runs back towards his own line at a pace faster than the ball is travelling backwards. I'd be interested if there are any physicists on here who can tell us if this is even possible.
I can see how a TV replay can prove a forward pass in those scenarios, but I would, however, say that you can't go to the screen for those instances and not other forward passes IMO, it wouldn't be right.
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| Quote FC Wembley 08="FC Wembley 08"Did Blake Green even play??'"
You're at it again!
Has he been seeing your missus or something?
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| Quote EL CAMO="EL CAMO"You're at it again!
Has he been seeing your missus or something?'"
It was more a joke comment regarding the slowest player, not how good he performed!! Not that he was spectacular!! 
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| Oh...don't quit the day job. 
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