why not call eddie stobart tell him there could be some ex players looking for a driving job

Except that part of the reason the Bulls are in trouble is that the RFL called in a loan made to them in January 2011. The Bulls were not expecting to repay it in full so quickly. Odd way to protect them.


Or very stupid. Y'see, the reason why their bank withdrew their credit facility (overdraft) and precipitated this crisis is that it was secured against the lease and the Bulls now have no lease and nothing else against which to secure credit. They may be nearly debt free but they have no actual money to operate the club.

It's like landing on Regent St with 4 houses and you only have £200,00 in your hands but plenty of your own houses BUT on the pinks !

Sure Bulls will survive ...........somehow.

The sport needs 14 teams - Bradford can support one, where else could ?

One of the press releases talked about almost non existent advertising & sponsorship - clear sign of just how deep this recession is biting. Fans on a shoestring too so just less money to go round.

Suspect some financial re-structuring, RFL support, Couple of player sales etc will tide them over till a new owner/investor moves in.

And yes I would buy one of their 'young guns' - just to help them out of course.

In Adam we trust !!!!!!!!!!!!

Firstly, I feel sorry for the Bradford fans. Everyone supports a team and their team is their team. We're all happy when things are going well and we're all sad when things don't go well.

I do not have any sympathy for the management of the club. Rugby League is a very simple business model.

Revenue is limited. There's the Sky money, gate receipts, sponsorship, transfer fees received, club shop sales, prize money and any club lottery.

Costs are relatively controllable. A salary cap controls the majority of these costs, other staff wages, ground costs, other operating costs, transfer fees paid, cost of merchandise and catering etc.

So basic business principles should apply and if revenue is greater than costs, then everything is fine. If revenues are down, then you reduce your costs accordingly. In sport, this should be done through the biggest cost, the players contracts. Pay should not be set as high and contract terms should be reduced when renewing contracts or signing new players.

I know all this is very business text book, but the failing is in the risk management. The main cause is being pointed to the signing of Harris. Closer to home, City's near miss with financial ruin was the contract awarded to Jimmy Bullard, 5 years @ £45k pw with no relegation clause. At the time of signing, it was 99% certain that City would face relegation in those five years and they would still be liable for his wages unless he was sold elsewhere age/injuries permitting. A player can demand any contract, but it doesn't mean they should awarded it.

What is happening at Bradford, is happening all over the place, Rangers, Port Vale and Portsmouth and it's been happening for years, see City's receivership in 1982.

I work in Business Development and I have to vet every piece of business I ever win ahead of the contract being signed. Basic things like, is the customer credit worthy; can they pay their bills; have I included all the costs of the service; what happens if volumes change; currency/fuel fluctuations; do we make a profit on the contract; is their any other risk during the contract period?

So when clubs continually fall into this trap, especially after receiving unprecidented TV money, I have little sympathy, except for in part, the fans, who may have demanded on occasion, for the Board to get it's cheque book out!

You have to cut your cloth accordingly. If you follow the dream, then be aware that some dreams turn into are nightmares.

If Hull were in the same position, I'd feel the same. I also support City and was not impressed with our self inflicted, post Premiership plight.

I hope Bradford survive, but they are going to have to find some cash from somewhere soon (their owner does seem a bit vague on whether its £500k or £1m, so it could be a bit or scarmongering going on). If Hull sign any of their players to provide Bradford with some revenue, well that's all good, just as long as the contract is right for Hull and we don't over expose ourselves.

oh my word, this is desperate times www.superleaguefans.com/bradford ... clash.html

oh my word, this is desperate times www.superleaguefans.com/bradford ... clash.html

Quote berro's best mate="berro's best mate"oh my word, this is desperate times www.superleaguefans.com/bradford ... clash.html'" you can also get a virtual pint to throw in the air when your team win and a vitual burger if peckish

Quote berro's best mate="berro's best mate"oh my word, this is desperate times www.superleaguefans.com/bradford ... clash.html'" you can also get a virtual pint to throw in the air when your team win and a vitual burger if peckish

Twitchy bum ole time, obviously getting offers for some of their players: www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/7633660/

Twitchy bum ole time, obviously getting offers for some of their players: www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/7633660/

Quote berro's best mate="berro's best mate"oh my word, this is desperate times www.superleaguefans.com/bradford ... clash.html'" Sorry but that is an insult, even the wording is poor " At a cost of just £20" JUST! To many fans they just don't have an extra £20. They also ensure to mention that this virtual ticket does NOT get you entry..WTF? If they had pitched it at £10 I think it would have been better. They won't get the money needed in time without help from the RFL, they're totally up creek. They've been spending like a big club long after their success but have continued to underachieve and with their dwindling fan base (much more than ours was) & clear mismanagement it shouldn't come as a surprise really. I reckon the running costs of Odsal were/are pretty steep too, I heard that Knowsley road was around £400k+ a year so would be similar for Odsal I'd think.

Quote berro's best mate="berro's best mate"oh my word, this is desperate times www.superleaguefans.com/bradford ... clash.html'" Sorry but that is an insult, even the wording is poor " At a cost of just £20" JUST! To many fans they just don't have an extra £20. They also ensure to mention that this virtual ticket does NOT get you entry..WTF? If they had pitched it at £10 I think it would have been better. They won't get the money needed in time without help from the RFL, they're totally up creek. They've been spending like a big club long after their success but have continued to underachieve and with their dwindling fan base (much more than ours was) & clear mismanagement it shouldn't come as a surprise really. I reckon the running costs of Odsal were/are pretty steep too, I heard that Knowsley road was around £400k+ a year so would be similar for Odsal I'd think.

the whole thing is a scandle....... imagiine if a mere mortal owed the banks money and you was begging in the street to save your house etc, youd be nicked for being a begger, bradfords board wont be getting a single penny from me thats a fact

Makes the super league kicking a cash offer from betfair in order to take up the stobart free deal all the more incredible, throw in the carnegie challenge cup were again therres no cash on the table its quite laughable, in this current climate its a joke to seell both competitions for nothing tbh