i suppose but if you look at the right hand side when it gets shipped out theres martin on the wing against 2 or 3 of there defenders and sharp is nowere to be seen martin should be drawing in players and putting sharp in the corner but its not been even looked at yet it gets to martin and comes back to the left edge again theres no creativity on the right side id like to see turner have the right centre spot again for me he is better out of him and martin

Not sure whether posted elsewhere but Gary Hetherington's interested as are Cas and Richard Agar. No mention of us at all.
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"His agent David Howes said: “The race to sign Gareth Ellis starts now.

“He is a Cas lad, he enjoyed his time at Wakefield and he thoroughly enjoyed his time at Leeds and it was a big decision to leave.

“I will be staggered if we don’t have conversations with all three. They would all have a reason to make an approach and each has got a different calling card.

“Wakefield are under new ownership, they are spending up to the salary cap and there’s the possibility of a new ground, Castleford have got the possibility of a new ground and they are his home town club."

Also on the Leeds board apparently Ellis' dad says Leeds is his preferred option. D'oh!

Not sure if it's been mentioned on here, but Bomber mentioned we were interested on BBC text this morning. Plue YEP doesn't go outside West Yorks

Yes, I heard McRae on RH. But I guess my point is that his agent has talked about Ellis' links to Cas, Leeds and Wakey. A sad day when Richard Agar is in with a better shout.

He'd be ordinary in under half a season under agar.

And wakey spending the full cap? Surely not with the squad agar has assembled?

Read the YEP when I used to go to my mums. Nothing about anything outside West Yorks (even Bradford rarely gets a look in as they have the T&A), so I wouldnt read too much into it. No mention of the Wire link?

That was my immediate thought. If that squad is costing the full cap they must be using a worse wage structure than we did under the previous regime.

But we've been there and know what happens, the opposition stroll through on a regular basis. Our attack has started slowly all over the pitch, it's to be expected with new players and new systems, but one of the biggest areas of improvement for me has been the right side defence, along with the all-round improvement in Sharp and his confidence level. To me there is no coincidence that this has happened with the absence of Turner, the Bradford game shined a huge spotlight on it to remove any remaining doubt. I personally think it would be lunacy to go backwards now as some sort of panic measure, we need to stick with it for a few more games at least. There is absolutely no point in going back to what has been proven not to work just because an alternative is not yielding instant perfect results.

Turner is simply not good enough, a prime example of the sort of player we need to replace with better if we seriously want to challenge the top 4.

I think if hull are to land ellis they need to throw serious money onto the table..

ellis is a quality player there no doubt about that but he 31 this year and knowing our luck get injured in his first game.

i think we need to start finding the best young players who are about to reach there peak and throw money at them as they will be the future.

I think we have a good chance, with Gentle's link and Pearson's wallet. We have to be involved with signing a player of his calibre. Early days yet, we'll see what happens.

you could be right about martin time will tell,just find it strange that a player who was in the top 25 try scorers in super league last season,without even playing the full season is being talked about as "not good enough".amazing!