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| Quote knocker norton="knocker norton"Jordan Turner is looking more like a middle of the pitch player to me now. Very strong with the ball in hand but defensively a risk out in the centres.'"
From watching the last two games and a number of games last season, I feel like Turner is one of the weaker links defensively within our squad.
Hope Martin gets the nod over Turner at right centre.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Pretty pleased with today, definitely more pros than cons IMO.
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McKinnon - completely unruffled all game. Did nothing spectacular, but that's because he made everything he did look easy. Safe as houses, excellent positional play, and a good support runner, typified by the try of the match.
Seymour - guided us round well I thought, and some real pieces of quality. Looks like we could finally have someone who can pick the right options and play regularly.
Horne - Looked quite sharp and dangerous today, and seemed quicker off the mark than he has for a while when he took his try. His kicking game was better too, although it did wobble after Seymour went off.
Martin - not great, but solid. The big plus was how much more settled his presence makes Sharp look.
Houghton - looked like he'll be picking up from last year's form.
O'Carroll - my first look at him, thought he looked good. Although all the props played well, tbf. I only singled him out as he's the new boy.
Nicklas - showed some good touches, particularly when in the halves for his 2nd stint.
Pearce - not quite ready yet, but produced some good runs and a couple of good hits. Definite potential.
Yeaman & Briscoe looked far better than they sounded last week.
Dummy runners and a half-decent kicking game!
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Westerman - looked a bit unsure about where he should be or what he should be doing at times IMO. The collision with Houghton as he was attempting to kick was schoolboy stuff. Should hopefully iron that out with game time, though.
Turner - good going forward (a great initial break from the interception, bumped one off well but then let himself down with the pass I thought), but still a liability in defence. For 5 or 10 minutes they opened us up far too easily down that side. He and Sharp simply don't have the positional sense to play together.'"
Pretty fair assessment althoug the spell which Bradford broke down our right hand side co incided with Turner and Pearce defending down there and I wouldnt bring Sharp into the equation because to me he has done everything asked of him so far this pre season.
Another negative for me is the performance of Aspinwall over the last 2 games. He has either not been given much game time or has had no real impact at all. |
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Am I the only one who thought Seymour was rather unremarkable?
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Pretty pleased with today, definitely more pros than cons IMO.
Positives:
McKinnon - completely unruffled all game. Did nothing spectacular, but that's because he made everything he did look easy. Safe as houses, excellent positional play, and a good support runner, typified by the try of the match.
Seymour - guided us round well I thought, and some real pieces of quality. Looks like we could finally have someone who can pick the right options and play regularly.
Horne - Looked quite sharp and dangerous today, and seemed quicker off the mark than he has for a while when he took his try. His kicking game was better too, although it did wobble after Seymour went off.
Martin - not great, but solid. The big plus was how much more settled his presence makes Sharp look.
Houghton - looked like he'll be picking up from last year's form.
O'Carroll - my first look at him, thought he looked good. Although all the props played well, tbf. I only singled him out as he's the new boy.
Nicklas - showed some good touches, particularly when in the halves for his 2nd stint.
Pearce - not quite ready yet, but produced some good runs and a couple of good hits. Definite potential.
Yeaman & Briscoe looked far better than they sounded last week.
Dummy runners and a half-decent kicking game!
Negatives:
Westerman - looked a bit unsure about where he should be or what he should be doing at times IMO. The collision with Houghton as he was attempting to kick was schoolboy stuff. Should hopefully iron that out with game time, though.
=#0000FFTurner - good going forward (a great initial break from the interception, bumped one off well but then let himself down with the pass I thought), but still a liability =#0000FFin defence. For 5 or 10 minutes they opened us up far too easily down that side. He and Sharp simply don't have the positional sense to play together.'"
Definately looks good going forward, but is a weak link in defence. I said to my mate at the game today, could be good as second row/loose man, but needs to up his defence to get a place in the 17.
Overall, thought there was some good stuff, but still definately a work in progress. Was good to see dummy runners  and Horny was far better today than last week, both in defense and attack. |
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Am I the only one who thought Seymour was rather unremarkable?'"
Not expecting miracles, just want a scrum half that organises and stays fit, hopefully. |
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Like I said in another thread.
Why do people have this thing about 'dummy runners'? No one should be a dummy runner, everyone should be an option!
Why should someone be a dummy runner, aren't they allowed to receive the ball when making a run?
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| Quote GJJ 79="GJJ 79"Quote GJJ 79="Rock God X"Am I the only one who thought Seymour was rather unremarkable?'"
Not expecting miracles, just want a scrum half that organises and stays fit, hopefully.'"
I wasn't expecting miracles either, but I didn't think he looked as good as either Dykes or Head. Still, it is early days... |
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Am I the only one who thought Seymour was rather unremarkable?'"
Speaking for myself, he didn't blow me away, but he did his job. Given our recent history in his position that's already a step up and a cause for positivity. If all he does is kick ok, keep us organised, move the ball to the right areas and create a few tries regularly, it will be a massive step forward for us. |
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"I wasn't expecting miracles either, but I didn't think he looked as good as either Dykes or Head. Still, it is early days...'"
He didn't look as good as Head (I think it was pretty impressive how quickly he settled into our side in all honesty), but he wasn't far behind Dykes' early games IMO. He/we may improve so that he looks better than Dykes did once bedded in more. The key thing in comparison to those 2 though, is that he didn't look like he was held together by bandages and might fall apart at any time. |
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Quote carl_spackler="Rock God X"Am I the only one who thought Seymour was rather unremarkable?'"
Speaking for myself, he didn't blow me away, but he did his job. Given our recent history in his position that's already a step up and a cause for positivity. If all he does is kick ok, keep us organised, move the ball to the right areas and create a few tries regularly, it will be a massive step forward for us.'"
Whilst that's undoubtedly true, I just long for the day when we sign another player to get really excited about. He's gonna be more Paul Deacon than Jason Smith, I reckon. |
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| Quote A unknown superstar="A unknown superstar"Like I said in another thread.
Why do people have this thing about 'dummy runners'? No one should be a dummy runner, everyone should be an option!
Why should someone be a dummy runner, aren't they allowed to receive the ball when making a run?'"
Yes they are all an option, but only one of them can take the pass as there is only one ball. The set plays will have several options, but one intended recipient. The others are there to cause a distraction to the defensive line and therefore, dummy runners.
We have spent too many of our recent years knowing who was going to get the ball and if we knew, the oposition knew. Thats why we struggled to break teams down in the ten.
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