This is my point give the man a chance and time.

You missed off Heremaia.

He counts as Federation trained as he was here before 2008.

Fed trained,but on the quota

Yes, but I think the point being made was that we have a non-fed space available even with Obst staying, it's only the quota spaces we have full. I believe it's:

Quota: O'Meley, Seymour, McKinnon, Heremaia, Obst.
Non Fed: O'Meley, Moa, Seymour, McKinnon.

So, for example, we could have kept Lauaki if we had cap space and the desire to.

This is one of the reasons I'm coming to believe it is more about the cap space than the quota spot as McRae is saying, and that perhaps Obst is on more money than he should realistically be.

If it is an Aussie they are after though they need rid of Obst as he takes up a valuable quota spot.

I'd guess obst is on £70-90k because we were desperate at the time. Way too much for a fringe player

Guy's who are our specialist 2nd row for next season? Tickle, Manu and ? I've blanked

Westerman

Westerman and Whiting at 13 for me,

Who are the lad's coming up? Interchanges? I think 3rd man in is of massive importance. (I suppose all positions are but is this being over looked).